The above mentioned person wrote to me a couple of times and took me to task in a rather insolent way and I confess it didn’t register; he made some malevolent remarks and again it didn’t register; he was obviously a narrow-minded supporter of the SNP and a hater of Labour and in due course it sunk in, I got there eventually. I asked myself some questions after a while noting that this guy was about as subtle as a rubber cosh; definitely a bit loosely wrapped and politically very partisan so, I asked myself what the hell has happened to standards at Glasgow University?
Being an inquisitive sort of guy and always ready and willing to take on the SNP fools and thugs I decided to make enquiries and; after moving around several departments at the University I was called back by a charming woman who was quite prominent in the Public Affairs and Publicity Department. When I started to tell her my story she interrupted me and said “what is this man’s name” when I said “George Laird” I was met with an outburst of barely suppressed laughter and the forceful statement that “Mr. Laird has nothing whatever to do with Glasgow University and you are only one of many who have called to ask about him. All seeking reassurance that the University had not suffered a collective breakdown and lost its collective senses.
So folks here we have a nationalist (what else) who is speciously claiming to have an association with Glasgow University and, writing to me and others as well as the press in a way which makes him feel important and suggesting that the Glasgow University campaign for human rights; is sympathetic to the SNP and hostile to Labour. Except of course that the organisation does not exist and he is a Walter Mitty character with a malicious streak who is not known to the University. I get the sense though that his anonymity might not last much longer. Glasgow University is a world famous centre of learning with a proud history and it has a big reputation to protect; while this fantasist and the SNP have none.
Monday, May 24, 2010
GEORGE LAIRD OF *THE GLASGOW UNIVERSITY CAMPAIGN FOR HUIMAN RIGHTS* IS AN SNP FANTASIST AND THE ORGANISATION HE LINKS HIMSELF WITH DOES NOT EXIST.
Posted by Cllr Terry Kelly at Monday, May 24, 2010
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Dear Councillor Kelly
I read your post, thank you for the free publicity, even on a site like yours.
“I get the sense though that his anonymity might not last much longer”.
If I am putting my real name up, then I am not anonymous.
You are not very bright are you Councillor Kelly?
“Glasgow University is a world famous centre of learning with a proud history and it has a big reputation to protect”.
I am first person in the history of Glasgow University to be banned for giving advice to an Asian et al, I kept the university letter.
What hovel would you like me to send a copy of the letter to you?
As those who know me will attest, I don’t lie.
Also, I will be sending university documents to various elected politicians to show how Glasgow University is a human rights abusing organisation.
129 letters to Holyrood.
Reputation is so important and I am outed the current Principal.
So, why is the University not taking me to court Councillor Kelly?
Could it be that I have kept the university documents which prove everything I have said in the public domain?
Yes, I did, how unfortunate for them.
Finally, like the Labour politician you were stupid enough not to ascertain facts before writing your post calling me a fantasist.
Your investigation was pathetic Councillor Kelly.
You even say;
“he is a Walter Mitty character with a malicious streak who is not known to the University”.
IP Address 18.104.22.168 [Label IP Address]
Country United Kingdom
Region Glasgow City
ISP University Of Glasgow
This is the Principal’s IP address; I use Statcounter to monitor who drops by my website.
Never heard of me, oh really!
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Dear Dear! He is just like the Walter Mitty characters like yourselves in the Labour party who keep on lying about another organisation that does not exist - The "Scottish" Labour party.
Other Walter Mitty things you go on about is being socialist - in the Labour party?
Who are you kidding Terry you are the biggest Walter Mitty on the Web - that is why everyone laughs at you and slags you off.
“If I am putting my real name up, then I am not anonymous”
I quoted the Uni. representative I spoke to so I suppose it depends on who I should believe right; Glasgow University or you?
“You are not very bright are you Councillor Kelly?”
Oh yes I am.
“What hovel would you like me to send a copy of the letter to you?”
How about Renfrewshire Council is that an easy enough Hovel for you to find?
“As those who know me will attest, I don’t lie”
Glasgow University state that ‘the Glasgow University campaign for human rights’ does not exist so once again it’s down to whom we should believe you or Glasgow University.
“Also, I will be sending university documents to various elected politicians to show how Glasgow University is a human rights abusing organisation”
Would you be so kind as to include me in that?
“So, why is the University not taking me to court Councillor Kelly?”
How would I know I’m not a doctor?
Is it possible the Principal has been told about the eccentric comments on some strange site about him and the university and visited it to see for himself and; having dismissed it as ---- well as what I wonder; let me kind and say he probably did not take you seriously.
I can only wonder what happened between you and G.U. my money would be on you being a failed student who is mad at them because they did not recognise your obvious genius.
Welcome back Billy how was Mars? I feel privileged to be in contact with an inter galactic space traveller.
I was just wondering if it was possible that anyone would possibly show support for this guy George Laird and speculating about what he was like. Could anyone be so stupid; could anyone be so off the wall as to have sympathy with such a raving head case and right on cue Billy reappears riding to his rescue.
(Billy and George - the end of the pier fantasy comedians) roll up roll up, don’t miss the show where these two incredible characters will prove that The Labour Govt. caused the London Bombings; the Twin Towers on 9’11 were not hit by planes and Glasgow University is a human rights abusing organisation; the hottest ticket in town.
Scotland’s got talent, you better believe it.
Dear Councillor Kelly
I need an exact address for mailing purposes.
As you took the time to write about me, I have returned the compliment.
I never realised that you were such a bam, did you taken any courses or are you purely self taught?
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Is Councillor Kelly missing something here?? I regularly read George Laird's blog "The Campaign of Human Rights AT Glasgow University" - he is clearly protesting about the university. Not claiming to represent them. You are looking a bit silly councillor!!.
Oh and councillor, of the 2 statements you make below, which is true??!!
“Mr. Laird has nothing whatever to do with Glasgow University and you are only one of many who have called to ask about him."
"he is a Walter Mitty character with a malicious streak who is not known to the University.
Dear Mr Kelly,
I’ve a few points to raise on the subject of this post, if I may.
Firstly, the human in “Human Rights” doesn't have an "i" in it.
Next I was wondering how you can have an "outburst" of "barely suppressed laughter"... I don't think you can. Do you?
Clearly the woman to whom you spoke knew Mr Laird... and knew much about him, and yet you later say that he is unknown to the university. Clearly he can't be both known and unknown to the university. Maybe you’d like to clarify that point.
It might be an idea to get some facts straight before you write this nonsense.
As an afterthought, what is your post about?
Dr Tristan Price-Williams
“he is clearly protesting about the university”
Either you have not read his blog or you are not being truthful he uses this bogus title to sound important and writes about many things not just the University.
Perhaps I confused you so I will try again; the woman I spoke to said he has no connections of any kind with the University, she said words to the effect “we have heard of him but we have no idea who he is”
I would certainly say that if you sign yourself Joe Bloggs (the Campaign for Human Rights for Glasgow University” you certainly are claiming to have the endorsement of the University and if the Uni. has no idea who you are and does not have a clue about your organisation you are a fantasist and a charlatan.
“Firstly, the human in “Human Rights” doesn't have an "i" in it”
Is this your level? I would regard it as a floundering argument to point out to you that the “r” in “Mr” as in Mr. Kelly Mr. Laird and even in your pompous use of “Dr” should all have full stops as they are abbreviations. Also the “I” in question should be upper case not lower case and; also point out to you that my mistake was a ‘typo’ while your mistake appears to be either laziness or an inability to punctuate. Yes I am embarrassing myself with such trivia but at least I’m aware of it.
“As an afterthought, what is your post about?”
It’s about Mr. Laird writing to me about an article on my blog and me realizing that this malicious charlatan is misleading people by pretending to have the endorsement of Glasgow University. He seems rather angry at me for exposing him but I intend to continue to do so.
Thank you for your assistance; this task seems to be beyond Mr. Laird.
Dear Councillor Kelly
Thank you for your assistance; this task seems to be beyond Mr. Laird”.
I want a mailing address for Renfrewshire Council.
I am not sending anything to your home address.
So, what is the address at Renfrewshire Council which mail can be sent to you?
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
(George Laird) 16:12
Well that didn’t take long did it? you are clearly a fraud and a complete charlatan; “human rights” my Jim Royle; you can’t find a way of sending me this red hot information aye right! I’ve already printed the address.
Cllr. Terry Kelly ( Labour)
H.Q. Renfrewshire Council
You are obviously a shyster and a shakedown artist but quite funny in a weird way; still no explanation of your fall out with the Uni.? Or how many members are in your organisation that Glasgow Uni. knows nothing about.
Get a grip man you are an embarrassment, thank God you are SNP.
"...I would certainly say that if you sign yourself Joe Bloggs (the Campaign for Human Rights for Glasgow University”" you certainly are claiming to have the endorsement of the University"
It's "campaign for human rights AT Glasgow University." not "for" !?! If you read the blog it is CLEARLY a personal blog attacking the university and others!!
Are you being awkward here or just daft?
"Perhaps I confused you so I will try again"
Confused by a labour councillor. Unlikely. I have a job.
Dear Cllr Kelly,
The use of points after the abbreviations Mr and Dr, etc, went out of style around 40 years ago.
I think it a little disingenuous to pick fault with my use of my title "Dr" (one earned for much hard academic work, and hardly, therefore, “pompous” as you suggest) when you happily use your title Cllr, without, I note, a point to indicate that it is an abbreviation.
I have, of course, no issue with your title, which I understand people who do your job are entitled to use; I have to wonder why you object to me using mine. People thus qualified nearly always do use the title. I shall, however, bow to your sensibilities and resist its further use in correspondence with you.
It would have been pompous, I agree, had I added the lesser distinctions earned along the way to my PhD.
I was trying to point out the utter banality of what you were writing, I obviously overestimated you judging by this effort; you are a pompous fool with a PhD.
Oh you are confused all right either that or completely dishonest, “for” or “at” makes no difference it is clearly designed to look like he represents Glasgow University.
Do you like me wonder why George can't find a way to send me a copy of his letter?
I've read many of George's posts in other forums and always thought he was representing some Glasgow University Human rights campaign, as in one which was University based.
It's only after this wee stooshie that I thought I'd better read the "blog"... This is hardly the venue for me to express my opinions on the contents of that particular blog / campaign, but to call someone stupid for not having studied George's accusations of Human Rights Abuses by Glasgow University is hardly fair.
I think most people would come to the conclusion that Glasgow university is going to be fairly low on Amnesty International's list of abusive organisations (I've certainly never seen it mentioned in my copies of Amnesty!) and much more likely to play host to an organisation dedicated to improving Human rights elsewhere. Feel free to correct me, but beware that my sympathies in Human rights abuses tends to extend to those mothers of the disappeared, those imprisoned and tortured without trial and the repressed of the 3rd world rather than student gripes about entry conditions.
I'd love to see this letter which banned George for
"giving advice to an Asian" too. I hope you'll share it with us when it arrives Councillor.
I only got involved with him after he sent me an insulting comment; I was vaguely aware of him and I was dubious about the title he gave himself so I checked him out and my suspicions were right. He has now written me with copies from his stat counter which I can’t open and he claims that they are from Glasgow University which according to his logic means that the Uni. do know him and they are liars; I have written back to him pointing out that even if he gets visits from the Uni. they could be students or the Janny so I await his response and I pointed out to him that he still hasn’t sent me that letter.
Dear Cllr Kelly,
In what way exactly did you overestimate me?
What makes you say I am a pompous fool?
I thought I could point out the stupidity of using a typing error to suggest superiority over someone but it only made your next comment even sillier and ultra pedantic; you clearly didn’t grasp the point.
Anyone who finds it necessary to refer so often to his educational qualifications is IMO a pompous fool and severly lacking in confidence.
Laird for the Lords, is what I say! He'd fit in well with the latest lot of Brown appointees - Ian Blair, Floella Benjamin (WHO?) and...wait for it...John Prescott! In the words of Chesterton...
Prince, Bayard would have smashed his sword
To see the sort of knights you dub--
Is that the last of them--O Lord
Will someone take me to a pub?
Chesterton was a right wing reactionary similar to yourself; he could however turn a phrase; he would be turning in his grave at being used by the likes of you.
Ahhh. It was you who referred to my academic qualifications, not I.
Go and look at the comment you sent; the one which is a hymn of praise to your academic brilliance and you will see the scribblings of a pompous fool trying to ‘big’ himself up, someone desperately pleading for respect and praise.
It’s a wee bit sad Councillor, if you feel so insecure, that you see my mentioning of academic qualifications as some sort of threat. Your qualifications are every bit as impressive, and yours were voted upon you by the public, whilst mine were awarded by some stuffy academics.
You're a councillor and you prefix your name on here with "Cllr". I'm a doctor and I prefix my name with "Dr".
You mention it; I said nothing except to give my title. Clearly I didn't go straight from Standard Grades to PhD. So yes, I collected other stuff along the way.
I dare say that when you get to the place that every Labour councillor wants to be, you will call yourself Lord Kelly.
What's the issue?
But we’ve wasted enough time on this nonsense; you go your way and I’ll go mine.
The issue which you chose to get involved in was George Laird. I see you have started using full stops after your abbreviations again; after 40 years as well.
I think George Laird is a fine man.
No. I didn't start putting points after these abbreviations for titles. I have always put points at the end of sentences, and I did so in that post.
Check it out.
I think George Laird is a fraud.
You started writing without full stops after abbreviations and started using them when I pointed this out in retaliation at you criticizing my typing error and I think you know don’t you that I did not refer to the end of sentences, I referred to abbreviations. You are clearly as big a fraud as Laird.
[You're a councillor and you prefix your name on here with "Cllr". I'm a doctor and I prefix my name with "Dr".]
[Clearly I didn't go straight from Standard Grades to PhD.]
As you can see, I used the points to indicate the end of a sentence and not because I had used an abbreviation.
Only a very sad character would pursue this and lie to himself.
Thank god i didn't vote you into public office... what a petty little man you are.
Woe is me I'm cut to the quick.
Mr Laird has been talking nonsense for a long time. He is in a strop even now and this "free publicity" isn't going to aid a campaign that doesn't even exist.
I hope Mr Kelly is not another victim of the boredom brought on by George's attempts to make some kind of point.
It is pretty obvious George Laird is looking to get Human Rights at Glasgow University for some perceived injustice.
The title is "The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University"
not the glasgow university campaign you have misquoted.
By Anonymous on GEORGE LAIRD OF *THE GLASGOW UNIVERSITY CAMPAIGN F... on 07/04/11
If I have misquoted then it was accidental but: he still seems to be using the university name to get attention; why doesn’t he clarify what it’s about ?
Dear Cllr Kelly,
Thank you for this info. on George Laird, I was just about to make a formal complaint to Glasgow Uni when I came across your blog.
You are not alone in thinking this charlatan was claiming to be associated with the university.
My complaint to them was about his disgusting internet claims and the people he associates with on-line, all of which is tracable, and hopefully can be taken to task over.
Well done for showing him for what he is.... a pathetic wanna be on-line Walter Mitty with a disturbing outlook on life.
By Anonymous on GEORGE LAIRD OF *THE GLASGOW UNIVERSITY CAMPAIGN F... on 29/05/11
I haven’t heard from Mr. Laird for ages and don’t really want to. He wrote to me a long time ago and I checked up with the University about him because he seemed to be associated with them but they were aware of him and rather treated him as a figure of fun. His views are distinctly unpleasant and he seems to strongly favour Scottish Nationalism but I’ve no idea if his love for the SNP is reciprocated. I still don’t know what his problem with the university is.
maybe you should look and and learn
in stead of attacting this guy take him to task he may well be a good thing to learn a fey things
I do sincerely wish Mr Laird drops self-styled accolade and association to the university. His blog and other contributions although appeared to be well-intentioned are confusing us who are actually member of the wider university. Mr Laird describes himself as politician in wait. One is either a politician or not a politician. If he is truely passionate about serving the public as a politician then my advise is to run for a public office as an independent instead of waiting for SNP or other parties to annoint him with offician candiadacy.
Glasgow University drop-out 2000/2001
Graduate of University of Strathclyde Bsc Computer Science 2006
Feel free to verify these claims and associations with the actual public record of both university
By learnerblogger on GEORGE LAIRD OF *THE GLASGOW UNIVERSITY CAMPAIGN F... on 13/05/12
Mr. Laird has in my opinion fashioned a guise for himself which attracts attention because of his use of the name of Glasgow University without which very few people would show any interest in him. I have long since ceased to bother with him but thank you for writing anyway.
Dear Mr Terry,
Tou make continual allegations that Mr Laird is an SNP Supporter ( eg. "His views are distinctly unpleasant and he seems to strongly favour Scottish Nationalism but I’ve no idea if his love for the SNP is reciprocated. "), but anyone who has read his actual blog can see that he has attacked the SNP's performance, and the crazy antics of their "Ministers".
Originally, when he set it up, Mr Laird did state that, "This blog is a Pro independence. I support the work the SNP Scottish Government does in helping making Scotland fairer and a better place to live."
Seemingly though, when the SMP did actually gain office, and then failed to live up to Mr Laird's expectations, he then subjected the SNP to the same critical examination and exposure as he had done to Labour and others previously.
Mr Laird has recently criticised politicians from ALL political parties, who are guilty of hypocrisy, or have underperformed, or deceived the public in some fashion. Now he has reappraised his stance, it seems, as the New "Guido Fawkes" in Glasgow.
Perhaps readers of your blog may trouble themselves to actually read the first entry on Mr Laird's blog, where the entire raison d'etre is explained. Then try reading some of the INFORMATION which Mr Laird brings to light, instead of attacking him for past perceived slights.
It seems to me that, though originally a partisan blog, which was set up to deal with the single issue which Mr Laird describes in his first (2007) posting, the thing has now become a beacon which draws attention to the foibles and prattfalls in the current Scottish Government regime.
1. First Posting
2. Up to Date myriad stories
critical of the SNP now.
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