Sunday, May 23, 2010


The above quote could be used now by George Osbourne as he describes what is about to happen and unfortunately he would be telling the truth not paraphrasing a line from a movie.

1,200 Scottish NHS jobs under threat; free bus travel for over 60’s also under threat; Royal mail under threat of privatisation; 25% defence cuts; £6Billion service cuts on their way immediately, 60,000 Scottish job losses forecast and this is just the start. The Libdems will no doubt be as proud as the SNP were at bringing in Thatcher, some people are about to learn the hard way that they and our country are better off under Labour, and there is more, much more to come due to the treachery of the spineless Libdems. As my sweet old mum (God be good to her) used to say when you had done something stupid which was causing you grief “hell mend ye”


Byeck said...

Terry, Have you read the Telegraph interview with Ed Balls?

Seems Brown, your Man of Stature and Integrity, was prepared to go along with the LibDems and kick Trident into touch if they kept him in power.

The man wouldn't know a priciple if it bit him on the Jim Royle

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Byeck) 09:34
Your faith in the integrity of the Telegraph is touching: I think I would like to hear Ed Balls and Gordon Brown’s version of that. I can’t find a verbatim report of it either; all I can find is a claim that Brown was prepared to “put Trident on the table” but the Telegraph survives on political idiots believing their stories; as in “trident on the table” means “Brown dumps Trident” smarten up for god’s sake.

Clegg said pre election; Trident is non negotiable, PR is non negotiable, a £6Billion cut is non negotiable we have got all 3 and he is in Govt. any comment?

Byeck said...

Kelly @ 6.15
Ball's faith in the Telegraph is even greater than mine - he gave them the interview!

And are you saying we should Trident?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

I don't understand this you are getting more silly if that's possible.

Byeck said...

Kelly @ 11.32

Let me spell it out for you Councillor - Balls did an interview for the Telegraph..the Telegraph quoted him saying Brown was prepared to kick Trident into touch if the LibDems would keep him in power...I have not seen any denial from Balls or Brown, or retraction by the newspaper.

Terry, if it looks like a dog, barks like a dog, then the odds are....!

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Byeck) 25/05/10
“the Telegraph quoted him saying Brown was prepared to kick Trident into touch”

No it didn’t, you make it too easy for me sometimes.

Byeck said...

Kelly @ 10.48

Remind me, dear boy, what exactly was the Telegraph quote? Ah, yes, 'Brown was prepared to put Trident on the table.'

And this, after claiming the LibDem promise to scrap it, threatened national security.

Your man is clearly nothing, if not flexible if it means hanging on to power.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Byeck) 11:52
A little progress I suppose; you made the last quote up; well done.

“And this, after claiming the LibDem promise to scrap it”

You really should try telling the truth; the Libdems want to replace it with another version of nuclear defence; they are pro nuclear; why do you find that difficult to say, Clegg talked as if he was anti nuclear and some naive people believed him, right?

Byeck said...

Terry, help a poor sinner...Brown claimed Clegg's stance on Trident put this nations security at risk.

Now, if Councillor Kelly knew Clegg had another, improved nuclear thingy, in mind, surely, so must the Kirkaldy Clown.

It follows therefore, that Brown was lying, during the Leader Debates...doesn't it?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Byeck) 26/05/10
Brown would certainly have known Clegg’s position on Trident I know I did and he regarded it as a dangerous one, hence his remark; you are assuming that Cleggs alternative was better right, why? did you speak to Clegg. This stupidity has gone far enough.

Byeck said...

Sorry son, still dont understand

If Mad Gordon knew Clegg wanted to replace Trident with something equally nuclear, then surely he was lying when he claimed the LibDem decision to bin the thing was a threat to UK security.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Byeck) 27/05/10
Look surely even you can do better than this; when and how did you decide that Gordon Brown “knew that Clegg wanted to replace Trident with something equally nuclear” where the hell did that come from?

Byeck said...

Terry, love, I did ask for help on this one! So:

Why did Brown say that Clegg's position, on Trident, threatened national security?

What did Balls mean when he said Brown was prepared to 'put Trident on the table' in return for LibDem support?

Appreciate you can only give a guesstimate, but that has never stopped you sharing your thoughts before.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Byeck) 18:44
It’s a tortuous business getting you to tell the truth but we seem to be getting there. Because he knew and even I knew that Clegg’s replacement for Trident was less expensive and less powerful hence the remark about threatening national security, Clegg has of course accepted Brown’s position despite saying it was a deal breaker.

As for what he meant by putting Trident on the table I think he would have meant he was prepared to discuss it, that’s a difficult one eh? kick it around like, see where it leads; negotiate; for God’s sake give me something testing, please.

Byeck said...

Kelly 7.14

Thank you Councillor, we have indeed 'got there.' Though it did take you a long time to admit the Telegraph Ball's quote was factual.

In short,you are saying, Brown knew the LibDem alternative to Trident was not as effective and therefore put the UK at risk.

Despite this, he was prepared to 'negotiate,' compromising the defence of this country, if it let him cling on to power.


Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Byeck) 30/05/10
This hinges on whether you regard the word negotiate as meaning “put at risk” but if you do you are in a minority of one.