Wednesday, June 09, 2010


I have had some people write about my post on the Israeli Psycho Commando who boasted about killing 6 innocent people on the Gaza boat and some of them seem a bit confused; I will try to simplify it for them again.

Following this blatant example of state sponsored mass murder the lunatic Israeli State had two choices; they could either do the right thing and lock up this clearly out of control disturbed storm trooper for as long as it takes to render him suitable again to be around his fellow human beings or, they could make him a hero and give him a medal and just like in “Catch 22” they did the latter.

It is not unknown for people involved in military actions to act outwith the rules of engagement and commit war crimes; it can be and is argued that on occassions the circumstances are such that reason goes out the window and those responsible are in certain situations not entirely reslponsible; panic, fear and frenzy can sometimes have a terrible effect on someone in the midst of chaos. It is however very unusual to say the least for the state employing the soldier to treat it as acceptable.

Whether this is a valid possibility is in this case irrelevant it is made irrelevant because of one difference with other such cases; this was an Israeli soldier that is the one difference. There is no doubt at all that if this had been British, American, Russian, French troops etc. this guy would now be being held in a rubber room and having his head read. There is copious evidence to suggest that only in Israel would this guy be immediately made a hero and allowed to carry on as normal. Israel is now well outside civilized society; when a soldier guns down 6 people even if they are carrying sticks and iron rods to attack him he needs to be investigated; other countries have sent members of their armed forces to prison for a lot less, this is Israel showing it's contempt for the world and ignoring another potential war crime and even rewarding it.


Byeck said...

Commando 'boasted' about killings?

Again, Councillor, source this claim please

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Byeck) 12:54
Not for you I’m afraid you are just a squalid nuisance.

Byeck said...

Kelly @ 4.40

You do see my problem with your Gaza position, dear boy?

One of your claims - 100's wounded - is a proven lie and a refusal to source any of the others casts a shadow over the rest.

Now, be a good little Councillor and source them, so that I can apologise for doubting your devotion to truth

Barking Spider said...

Not for anyone, methinks, you commie charlatan. You all spout the same crap.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Byeck) 09/06/10
“You do see my problem with your Gaza position, dear boy?”

I see your position only too well old chap; continuing to muddy the water and argue about numbers, sources etc. keeps the argument away from the murders committed by Israel doesn’t it.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Barking Spider) 10/06/10
This obviously means something to you but I haven’t a clue what you are trying to say, would you like to try again?

Anonymous said...

"Look back in anger"?

"Catch twenty two"?

You seem to be a bit of a fantasist Councillor. I don't suppose it would help if I tried to explain that the two novels are mere fantasy.

Just like your own ideology in fact.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

I'm probably wasting my time but the first is a ‘realist PLAY/FILM; reflecting Britain at the time of writing and the second is a black comedy NOVEL/FILM based on the war time experiences of Joseph Heller who was a tail gunner in the U.S. air force during WW 11.

Do you have to practice to be this stupid?

I think you can consider your arse kicked again.

Anonymous said...

Much as I hate to give credence to Terry's normally inane ramblings, it does at least seem that the medla part is true.

I can find no reference, however to the claim that he bragged about the killings. I would suggest that the award of a medal does seem somewhat insensitive.

Jim Lewis

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 10/06/10
Jim I accept that I am not the world’s greatest genius and I know that you and I have been swapping posts for a couple of years so; am I in your honest opinion daft enough to make up a story about an Israeli soldier being given a medal for shooting dead 6 people armed with sticks and iron bars?

Byeck said...

Councillor, read the Lewis 7.01 post me, he wants you to source your 'Commando boasting' claim.

If you wont do it for it for Jim, else that will be both your loyal readers doubting you.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Byeck) 14/06/10
If my loyal readers like you and Jim doubt I would be as well quitting.

Anonymous said...

Terry, please notice that I didn't dispute that the bragging took place. I simply stated that, despite searching diligently (and I do pride myself on detail) I could find no reference to it. I'm not going to labour the point, but since you and I are such firm friends, I'd hoped you could give me a pointer in the right direction. For what it's worth, I have willingly defend you against charges of anti-semitism, that disingenuous stick used to beat critics of Israel's foreign policy. However, being the politician tha you are, I don't think you're averse to a little rhetoric now and then.

Jim Lewis

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 12:15
Well Jim since it’s you; I do indulge in a little rhetoric now and then but the truth is I have no idea now where I got it I don’t bother all that much with providing sources I suspect people sometimes ask me for them because they want to annoy me and give me more work to do.

I don’t know what News Channels you watch but; I watch Al Jazeera and Press news a lot to get some balance it could have come from an interview or report on one of them.