The tall grey haired distinguished looking man who steps off the airplane in Israel is a VIP and no mistake; arguably there is only one more important VIP on the planet and that is Barak Obama the President of the USA. This is Senator Joe Biden the man who is one heartbeat away from the most important job in the world; Joe is the Vice President of the USA so this must be important right? well the world thought so but; Israel is not quite ready to be included as part of the rest of the world. Biden is in Israel to try to make a breakthrough in starting up the peace talks between Palestine and Israel for the umpteenth time.
For such an important man to get involved at this level suggests that something positive is about to happen we all hope it’s a chink of light; the world again holds its breath; Israel however sees an opportunity to once again dash all hopes of progress. Designed to coincide with the Vice President’s visit the devious liars who control the rogue State of Israel have decided to humiliate Biden and America and show the world that no one tells the Israeli Crazy gang what to do.
They announce in a move designed to make matters worse that 1,600 settler houses will be built in the illegally occupied Palestinian territory of East Jerusalem which has been occupied illegally according to the rest of the world since 19 67. Israel is not however part of the normal world; they have no intention whatsoever of making peace; if this latest provocation does not prove that nothing ever will. Palestinian homes will be knocked down and Jewish settler homes will be built on land that is legally Palestinian and the world continues to do nothing and the mightiest power on the planet accepts another humiliation.
The world will eventually have to act against Israel to enforce a two state settlement and it has to be the one based on 19 67 borders. For those who have forgotten what that means :- Gaza; The West Bank and East Jerusalem are Palestinian territories; the Apartheid Wall is illegal; the refugees have the right of return with compensation and the Golan Heights are Syrian but that seems to be ignored.
These conditions are those which are supported by the rest of the world; only Israel and America demur; we need a massive boycott to make this bunch of crazies see sense; if the USA were to lead it the problem would be over right away. Think about the above the next time you hear the weasel words of the Israeli spokespersons talking about a peaceful solution and remember when their lips move they are lying.
I predict that there will be a lot more bloodshed before any progress is made Israel has made it’s bed and it is slowly losing the war of ideas which they can’t control; they are in too deep; they can still hold on to Israeli popular opinion by going after Iraq or Iran or my tip which is Lebanon; they are still smarting about what Hezbollah did to the IDF who everyone thought were invincible; that is unfinished business for the Israeli warmongers but they will know that it won’t be like attacking defenceless Gaza; Hezbollah are a different prospect and Israel knows that, victory against them will come at a grave cost. The big question is how long can they get away with it; the world knows Israel is in the wrong but will they take everyone down with them? Look at the loonies in charge and be scared be very scared. What will they do when they start to see that the game is up? just how crazy and fanatical are they?
They will lose; and the more sane and astute among them know that; history tells us clearly that they will lose; remember Vietnam? south Africa ? oh, they will lose all right; mainly because by all that is decent in humanity they deserve to lose.
Thursday, March 11, 2010
IN THE BATTLE FOR HEARTS AND MINDS, ISRAEL IS LOSING.
Posted by Cllr Terry Kelly at Thursday, March 11, 2010
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Completely off topic, Councillor, but knowing how quickly and fiercely you take up the Sacred Sword of Truth against the perfidies of corrupt politicians up there in 'Jockland', I am still waiting in a state of some excitement for your thundering sermon on the subject of Mr. Steven Purcell.
Please, please, Councillor, don't keep us waiting any longer.
(David Duff) 13/03/10
I am not in a position to comment on Mr. Purcell as I don’t know anything about this except that he has resigned because of ill health, perhaps you will join me in wishing him a speedy recovery.
If you are aware of something that I have missed please let me know.
Mr Kelly, during the second intifada Palestinian terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians killed the equivilent of six 9/11's. Compare Israels response to the second intifada to that of the USA and UK to 9/11.
Since 2001 Hamas has fired more than 8000 rockets and mortars at Israeli towns - Compare Israels response to 8000 rockets and mortars that killed and seriously injured many Israeli civilians to the response by the British Government to a *false* claim that Iraq had missiles that could be fired within 45 minutes of an order.
"Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided"
Barack Hussein Obama.
Councillor Kelly, Jerusalem is not a settlement. President Obama was aware that Israel's sovereignty over Jerusalem was not a matter up for discussion and Mr Netanyahu had made it clear to Obama that construction in Jerusalem could not be linked to the discussion on settlements.
Your article is, as usual, short on facts - You should at least make a token attempt at balance if you dont want your writing to be dismissed as simply the rabid ranting of a semi-literate Scottish bigot.
Can you provide your source for this claim:
"Palestinian homes will be knocked down and Jewish settler homes will be built on land that is legally Palestinian"
BTW - Not surprising to see that your plea for donations to Labour election campaign funds is based solely on class prejudice. Particularly ironic as a large number of Labour cabinet members and MPs are public school toffs themselves. Why even your fellow Scot and relative stranger to parliament, George Galloway, is Britains fifth richest MP (although you'd probably claim that he was more of a spiv than a toff).
"The rich Tories will spend four times as much money as Labour. Please click on the link below and donate to the Labour campaign. It's between Labour governing with 'Fairness for All' and the rich Cameron toffs governing for their own class, please donate."
Instead of promulgating class war perhaps you could comment about what Labour have done to the UK over last 13-yrs:
Taken us to war on a false premise.
Replaced Cabinet government with a politburo.
Taken in three million immigrants.
Saddled us with recession.
The highest youth unemployment in history.
Eroded our liberties.
Abolished the right to trial by jury.
Raped the Constitution.
Politicised the civil service.
Brought us to the brink of bankruptcy.
Sold off our gold reserves at the bottom of the market.
Raided our pensions.
Subjected us to the Lisbon Treaty.
Relegation from 7th to 24th in maths and literacy rankings.
Caused fascists to be elected to Brussels.
Increased tax burden.
Given us 5000 new laws.
Created an authoritarian state.
Debased our politics.
(courtesy of the rev Cramner).
"I am not in a position to comment on Mr. Purcell as I don’t know anything about this ..."
Well ignorance has never ... no, that's cheap and I withdraw it. Instead allow me to educate you by quoting the leader in last week's Spectator:
"In the past week, though, Purcell has been unmasked as a cocaine addict. He was visited in his offices last year by the [police]. There are concerns that his drug habit made him vulnerable to blackmail by the city's crime bosses. In a murky twist, a teenage boy reported to be a close friend of Purcell collapsed and died in a street close to the ex-councillor's former office on Friday."
Always happy to keep you up to date on 'Jockland' affairs, Councillor, now what was it you were saying about Mr. Salmond and the SNP ...?
"I don’t know anything about this except that he has resigned because of ill health."
And how do you know that, Terry?
Spoken like a true party apparatchik.
The reticence of the Labour Party and their chums in the Glasgow press is quite telling.
If he had been a Tory or SNP councillor, you'd be on it like white on rice.
Don't even pretend otherwise.
Perhaps you should read Joan McAlpine's article in her blog Go Lassie Go where she delves into the murky world of Glasgow Labour. Or maybe read Gerry Hassan's piece "The Strange Story of Labour Scotland"
The Times has a good article on Willie Haughey's intimate links with the Purcell administration.
Of course, they're all just anti-working class demons out to rubbish the 'peoples party'. But it's interesting just the same.
“And how do you know that, Terry”?
Because he said so.
“If he had been a Tory or SNP councillor, you'd be on it like white on rice”
I don’t know what ‘white on rice’ means but I certainly would not comment other than to say he has resigned on health grounds no matter what party he came from; you see; unlike you I don’t hide myself away and consequently I have to tell the truth I can’t afford to lie and say anything I like to damage someone without proof.
I don’t know who Joan McAlpine is and haven’t read her blog but I am confident that like Gerry Hassan who makes a living through attacking Labour and the article in the Times who are of course scrupulously fair she will not have accused anyone of anything; it will all be hearsay and malicious rumour.
If you want to be credible and you feel so strongly about this what is stopping you naming names and making your accusations and identifying yourself; I’m sure Willie Haughey would love to meet you in court.
You are just a cowardly bag of wind who trades in lies from underneath your stone.
(David Duff) 09:11
“In a murky twist”
Please explain why this young man’s death is a “murky twist” pass me your full checkable identify and I will print what you say. Otherwise you can crawl back under your stone where you belong; you are low life scum.
The rogue State of Israel and its supporters gave up telling the truth years ago; no one believes your massive lies any more. Comments like this are one of the reasons that Israel is losing the battle of Ideas and the fight for the truth.
That is why you desperately try to divert the argument away from Israel’s war crimes with pathetic references to Iraq.
"Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided"
Barack Hussein Obama
There is one way and one way only that Jerusalem will remain Israel’s undivided capital and that is by force because Israel has no moral or legal claim to East Jerusalem; it is illegally occupied Palestinian territory.
Barack Obama contrary to what you seem to believe is not the president of the world.
“if you dont want your writing to be dismissed as simply the rabid ranting of a semi-literate Scottish bigot”
I am delighted to earn this opinion from the likes of you.
You don’t seem to like me being a “class warrior” I’m delighted.
I’m happy to let people read the rest of the garbage you have sent but; it’s not worthy of comment.
You will have to ask The Spectator for that, Councillor, but in the meantime here is some more from their editorial:
The implosion of Purcell's career has shown how unreformed Scottish politics remains. Instead of introducing a new crop of politicians, devolution has simply given limousines and ministerial portfolios to the same old politians from the Town Hall (plus a few C-listers from Westminster). Some MSPs have been arrested for drunkenly setting fire to hotel curtains. Henry McLeish [...] resigned in an expenses scandal. [...] The burning issue in Scotland - the world class poverty in its welfare ghettos - has been ignored by the new politicians just as it was by the old. Researchers come from all over the world to study the urban poverty in Glasgow ...
"Bonny Scotland"! You have to laugh, well you have to, you'd weep otherwise.
Now what can you tell us about Mr. Purcell, Councillor?
Kelly @ 2.56
Councillor dear, with the 'murky twist' bit, the lovely Mr Duff was quoting 'The Spectator.'
Perhaps an apology to the gentleman is called for?
No it’s not he chose to use the quote so presumably he believes it; I’m simply asking him to stand up and be counted but; I’ve dealt with him before so I won’t hold my breath.
(David Duff) 16/03/10
The above from the spectator is nothing more than an anti Labour sectarian rant; it tells you nothing except where the writer’s allegiance lies.
I have never used the phrase “Bonny Scotland” and I never would; Scotland is much the same as many other places in the Capitalist cess pit that we inhabit; fabulous wealth and grinding poverty; you can see it in London; Liverpool Leeds etc.
I’ve told you what I know about Mr. Purcell but I suggest again that if you want to make any accusations against him or anyone else be my guest; just ID yourself first and I will accommodate you; backbone Mr. Duff have you ever heard of it?
But, I do not want to make any accusations against him, indeed, I had never heard of him until last Friday when 'The Speccie' came out. However, I do feel disappointed that the man I rely on to be my window into Glasgow affairs failed to even mention this colossal fall from grace, as specified by the Scottish Herald:
"Former colleagues of Steven Purcell have attempted to distance themselves from the disgraced ex-Glasgow City Council chief by describing his leadership as “presidential” and insisting he took decisions without consulting fellow councillors in the ruling Labour group. Herald 9/3".
"It is understood senior Labour figures were told of the drink and drug use almost a week ago, but said nothing in public while Mr Purcell’s outside PR team tried to keep a lid on one of the biggest political scandals in years"
"In 2006, Mr Purcell left his wife of five years and came out as gay".
All I asked for, Councillor, was your take on this, er, tragedy, you being an insider, so to speak. I mean, just suppose for s second that Mr. Purcell had been a member of the SNP, would we have had to endure this uncharacteristic silence from you?
(David Duff) 17/03/10
I didn’t mention it because it was in every paper and there was nothing I could add because I don’t know the man.
"Former colleagues of Steven Purcell have attempted to distance themselves from”
Who are they?
"It is understood senior Labour figures were told of the drink and drug use almost a week ago”
Who are they?
"In 2006, Mr Purcell left his wife of five years and came out as gay"
This is true; not because the Herald said so but because Mr. Purcell said so. It is of course completely irrelevant but typical of the Labour hating Glasgow Herald.
“just suppose for s second that Mr. Purcell had been a member of the SNP”
Can you show examples of me making unfounded accusations against anyone; remember I am completely public and I have many enemies and no one has ever tried to sue me.
I have to wonder and not for the first time if you actually grasp any of this stuff.
Just for you I have slightly reworded my post so you will now have no problem posting it on your blog...... Unless of course it is you who is the coward.
Lies, Mr Kelly? What exactly are these "massive lies" you claim I made in my posts?
Councillor Kelly - Anyone who challenges the way YOU want Israel to be perceived is simply dismissed by you as a liar in the same way Galloway does in this video -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwxWTLvE1Q4. No evidence is presented by you to support your many and frequent accusations of lying. You're like a child who, when told something he doesn't want to know puts his fingers in his ears and says "la la la la, I can't hear you"
And you still haven't provided the source for your own claim that "Palestinian homes will be knocked down and Jewish settler homes will be built on land that is legally Palestinian"
"That is why you desperately try to divert the argument away from Israel’s war crimes with pathetic references to Iraq."
I'm not trying to do anything Mr Kelly - It is you who persistently diverts arguments, point blank refuses to answer questions and refuses to back your ludicrous claims up with sources.
I'm sincerly interested in your opinion on the war in Iraq, particularly as you hold such strong, bordering on obsessive, views on Israels action in Gaza.
The British Labour Government took us to war with Iraq on the false premise that Iraq had weapons that could be fired within 45 minutes of receiving an order - a claim that even if it had been true represented no direct threat to Britain or its citizens.In fact had that claim been true the only place those weapons could have been used was in the battlefield (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2004/jul/12/iraq.iraq) so by going to war with Iraq the British government actually placed it's citizens (British soldiers) in a position where they were at risk from WMD when before they were not. But it was FALSE and based only on a FALSE claim the British Labour Government was complicit in the deaths of 600,000 (Lancet) Iraqi civilians.
Who knows what we would have done to Iraq had Saddam been firing missiles at Dover almost every day for eight years - Missiles that were gradually getting closer to London. Or had Iraq sent hundreds of suicide bombers to attack our major towns deliberately targeting women and children, killing and maiming thousands.
The 'proportionate response' by the Labour government to absolutely *no REAL threat what-so-ever* to the British Isles resulted in the slaughter of 600,000 Iraqis.
Now surely someone as critical of Israels military response to rocket attacks by Hamas would be equally critical of the British Labour governments war crimes? And if not. Why not?
Well, Councillor kelly?
“Lies, Mr Kelly? What exactly are these "massive lies" you claim I made in my posts?”
“Hamas fired over 8,000 rockets and approx 24,000 Israeli civilians skilled”.
“the public are more likely to believe a big lie than a little one right?”
“Anyone who challenges the way YOU want Israel to be perceived is simply dismissed by you as a liar”
“You're like a child who, when told something he doesn't want to know puts his fingers in his ears and says "la la la la, I can't hear you"
Well I suppose if you say so it must be true you are a scintillating debater.
“And you still haven't provided the source for your own claim that "Palestinian homes will be knocked down and Jewish settler homes will be built on land that is legally Palestinian”
This is another pathetic diversion; thousands of Palestinian homes have been demolished since the occupation and it still goes on and Israel are still building homes for Jewish settlers illegally on Palestinian land; would you like to refute this?
“I'm sincerly interested in your opinion on the war in Iraq”
No you are not; you are sincerely interested in diverting the discussion away from Israel’s war crimes, their apartheid state and their brutal and illegal occupation of Palestinian territory that’s why you are an obvious liar.
If you are going to quote someone at least make an effort to quote what they actually posted not what you wished they had said.
"Since 2001 Hamas has fired more than 8000 rockets and mortars at Israeli towns"
and: "during the second intifada Palestinian terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians killed the equivilent of six 9/11's"
Not as you claim: “Hamas fired over 8,000 rockets and approx 24,000 Israeli civilians skilled”.
"Gaza terrorists escalated attacks on the western Negev Tuesday, pushing to 10,046 the number of mortar and rocket attacks the past eight years."
On September 11, 2001 suicide bombers murdered 2,973 civilians out of a population of 315,534,716 or 0.00094221% of the total population. During the 2nd Second Intifada Palestinian suicide bombers murdered 719 Israeli civilians out of a population of 7,500,000 or 0.009586666% of the total population - the equivilent of nearly ten 9/11's.
The onus is now on you to prove me wrong or retract your allegation and apologise - or perhaps you are not MAN enough... Are you a man Mr Kelly or just a Wee, Sleekit, cowrin, tim'rous beastie?
My money's on the latter.
"Since 2001 Hamas has fired more than 8000 rockets and mortars at Israeli towns"
There is the very quote and now hear this; you and the rest of the apologists for the apartheid war criminal State of Israel are liars; now; how are you getting along with that libel legal stuff?
You can stick your convoluted figures and your attempts to muddy the water I don’t need to prove you wrong I am happy to print the filth and lies you print and let people read them.
You would love a nice long winded complicated argument adorned with nice complex percentages and intricate figures wouldn’t you? you would love the chance to tell people just how complex the Palestine / Israel conflict is wouldn’t you; unfortunately for crooks like you it’s not complicated at all; Israel is an apartheid state;a racist state where the life of a Palestinian child is worth nothing that is what you want to avoid isn’t it.
Is it not about time for you to call me a Jew hater and an Anti Semite; surely that can’t be far away.
Councillor Kelly, I'm sure you would love me call you a racist and an antisemite, in fact I think you need me to. BUT I refuse to lower myself to your level, the level of a hater. I pity you as I pity everyone who blinds themselves to facts and anything else that is a challenge to their prejudice - a prejudice based largely on fear, heresay, half truth, propoganda and blatant lies.
Even in your reporting of Israel, and I use the word reporting in its loosest sense, there is no balance. I see no blog posts from you about real genocide and human rights abuses committed in other parts of the world and on a far greater scale than any wrongs committed by Israel. For example the 20000+ innocent civilians killed by the Sri Lankan army and the ongoing beating, rape, torture and murder of protestors and prisoners of conscience as regime policy by the Islamic Republic of Iran. Why don't you judge these regimes by the same standards you expect from Israel? In fact in your refusal to reply to my questions about the UK involvement in Iraq and to condemn the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians in a war against a country which posed no threat to the UK it's obvious that you are guilty of the same double standards towards the British government.
Reading through your blog I see nothing from you that is positive, only hatred and negativity - for 'toffs', for the USA, for Israel, for Alex (the spiv) Salmond, cybernats (whatever they might be), for the YMCA, the SNP, Zionists, supporters of Israels right to exist - all of them either crooks, defenders of child murderers or liars (and many all three) according to you and without you producing one single tiny shred of evidence to back up those allegations.
Why are you so obsessed with Israel when there are other countries more deserving of your ire.
I bet you won't print this, in its entirety.
BTW if you want judging do it yourself......... does any of this apply to you?
The EU's Definition of Antisemitism
The purpose of this document is to provide a practical guide for identifying incidents, collecting data, and supporting the implementation and enforcement of legislation dealing with antisemitism.
Working definition: ``Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or nonJewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.''
In addition, such manifestations could also target the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity. Antisemitism frequently charges Jews with conspiring to harm humanity, and it is often used to blame Jews for ``why things go wrong.'' It is expressed in speech, writing, visual forms and action, and employs sinister stereotypes and negative character traits.
Contemporary examples of antisemitism in public life, the media, schools, the workplace, and in the religious sphere could, taking into account the overall context, include, but are not limited to:
Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
•Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective - such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
•Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by nonJews.
•Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
•Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
•Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
Examples of the ways in which antisemitism manifests itself with regard to the state of Israel taking into account the overall context could include:
•Denying the Jewish people their right to selfdetermination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
•Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
•Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
•Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
•Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic. Antisemitic acts are criminal when they are so defined by law (for example, denial of the Holocaust or distribution of antisemitic materials in some countries). Criminal acts are antisemitic when the targets of attacks, whether they are people or property---such as buildings, schools, places of worship and cemeteries---are selected because they are, or are perceived to be, Jewish or linked to Jews. Antisemitic discrimination is the denial to Jews of opportunities or services available to others and is illegal in many countries.
Spiked your guns eh? The Jew Hater and Anti Semitic insults are wearing thin aren’t they?
Let’s see, we have Sri Lanka; Iraq; Iran; The UK; the USA none of whom are relevant to what I wrote about; you are desperate to shift the argument on to anything but the State of Israel and its crimes; you may not realise it but this post is as good an example as I can think of to describe why Israel is losing “the battle for hearts and minds” you are finding it harder and harder to excuse what is going on and you will lie and cheat to avoid the truth.
You are now reduced to saying that other countries commit atrocities so why can’t Israel; that is no defence at all and is crude and callous.
Meanwhile The Palestinians are having their land stolen their homes bulldozed; and their people murdered and tortured by the State of Israel. Children are dying because of the collective punishment (a war crime) being meted out by Israel, medicines are not allowed in because of the Israeli blockade; 80 % of the water in Gaza is contaminated because Israel will not allow the materials and tools in to fix it.
Israel is occupying the West Bank; East Jerusalem; the Golan heights and blocking Gaza all international crimes condemned by the UN and the International court, millions of Jews all around the world are increasing critical of Israel.
I will stand by my actions and you and people like you will not divert me whatever names and crude insults you want to bandy about, I couldn’t care less what people like you call me or think of me, I’ve been subjected to it before and it no longer bothers me.
Are you sure, Tel?
How do you explain your obsession with Israel and Zionists to the exclusion of all else (as proven by your refusal to debate or even comment on REAL genocide and human rights abuses elswhere in the world today, in Iraq, Sri Lanka, Darfur, Iran etc)?
I know you would love to start an argument about anything except the terrorist State of Israel, because you know that you can’t justify their actions but; I’m not buying your lies and more and more people are seeing through you and the Zionist gangsters who run Israel.
Today there is an article in a lot of news bulletins from Gaza where doctors are appealing for any country to take the case from them of conjoined babies because they can’t operate due to the lack of medicines and facilities. This is caused by the Israeli blockade of Gaza,
you must be so proud of Israel right?
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