· Feb. 28 20 14 - 09.30. The council chamber at Renfrewshire Council has a "buzz about the place" as Councillors assemble for the first time ever under the unforgiving gaze of the TV cameras. The assembled crowd in the public gallery has been noticeably increased to what looked like a swaying mass of four people. The conduct of the snp was noticeably improved, not a difficult thing to do I hear you say but progress nevertheless. The most contentious part of the proceedings was a typically spurious motion by the snp attacking Labour and Tory peers for remarks allegedly made which, according to them politicised the coming referendum by abusing the dead and injured of WW1. The snp have 'previous' for unintentional irony in case anyone is unaware of their fragile grasp on reality.
The object of their synthetic rage was Lord Lang the Tory peer who suggested that it was insulting the dead of that war by trying to break up the country which they had died for, Labour peers in particular Helen Liddle were also in their sights. Their powers of hypocrisy know no bounds as was witnessed by their own blatant attempts to politicise the conflict by perversely insisting that Lord Lang and Baroness Liddle had insulted the Scottish war dead with their remarks. In my contribution I defended the right of Lord Lang to have an opinion and his right to express it, likewise Baroness Liddle, this brought hysterical opprobrium upon me from in particular snp cllrs. A Doig, McEwan and Nicolson. These three had decided that my declaration in favour of free speech and opinion meant that I was a right wing Tory and worse, particularly from Nicolson who has a distinct talent for mangling shredding and generally beating up the English language that has not been seen since the heyday of the late great Professor Stanley Unwin.
From these exchanges I believe we were seeing what would happen to people who did express views and opinions contrary to those held by the snp if they had enough power, they simply would not be allowed to express such opinions, the clamp downs would be justified by doing it “for the cause” of course. I am happy to declare that if my defence of freedom of speech and the right to form personal opinions is a crime I am guilty as charged.
The tenuous grasp on political reality and understanding was hilariously demonstrated by snp councillor Mylett who is another ‘brammer’, the snp tried to attack Labour because 47 of our Mp’s did not attend a debate on the bedroom tax, this led to Labour Cllrs. Mark MacMillan and Mike Holmes patiently trying to explain the very easy to understand practice known as the “pairing system” which allows Mp’s to be absent at the same time as their ‘opposite pair’, simples eh?, well not to the snp it’s not and in particular not simple to the cerebrally challenged cllr. Mylett who bullishly opined that you can’t have a pairing system with an odd number of MP’s (47) cllr. MacMillan heroically managed to keep a straight face as he kindly explained to ex soldier Cllr. Mylett (yes he was allowed around weaponry) that 47 Labour MP’s is equal to 47 Tory Mp’s and no I am not making this up.
On he and the snp ploughed though demanding to know if these Labour Mp’s were paid when they did not show up for the vote. Labour Cllr. Mike Holmes then informed them that snp Mp’s Mike Weir, Stewart Hosie, Angus McNeil, Eilidh Whiteford, Angus Robertson and Pete Wishart had all failed on 5 occasions between them to turn up for votes on the bedroom tax and, yes you’ve guessed it, they were all paid for not turning up, and of course none of them had a pairing arrangement with anyone giving the Tory/Libdem government an advantage which they did not get when the 47 Labour Mp’s were paired.
This was a humiliating day for the snp in Renfrewshire and to top it all it was revealed that when the Scottish parliament led by snp finance minister John Swinney congratulated Renfrewshire Council for it’s actions and initiatives to mitigate the effects of the bedroom tax, Paisley MSP George Adam SNP despite being asked to join those congratulations refused to do so. The really disturbing aspect of all this is that the snp did not seem aware of what an embarrassing and humiliating day they had just had. They want to run a separate Scotland you know, honestly they do!.
Well now we can check the facts for ourselves. On a hunch I would suspect your version of events may be somewhat at odds to reality.
The camera never lies as they say.
Anonymous said... Friday, February 28, 2014 5:19:00 pm.
Pay particular attention to what I had to say and then what Cllrs. Andrew Doig, McEwan and Nicolson said about me, perhaps if you agree with their comments you can explain why and I will print what you say if it is printable. Perhaps you could maybe summon up the courage to identify yourself as well.
Whilst there is a pairing system, why did Labour pair with the Tories on such an important issue? This is for non important issues! In fact, I believe it was a Labour motion. Labour knew there would be a shortage of Tory MP's and Curran was pleading with the Libs to back Labour. Why was ther no 3line whip to ensure it had a chance of being voted in. Perhaps, Labour did not want it passed, after all they introduced the original Bedroom Tax!
'....defend freedom of speech...personal opinions...' Kelly, what a man, a beacon of hope in a dark world.
Ideas like that would get you up against a wall with a last cigarette in some places...think Castro, Stalin, Harman, Mugabe, the guy in Venezuala...so well done you...I salute you.
Would it be at all possible that you defend 'free speech' when the free speech is one that supports your narrow view of the world?
You appear to be a dinosauric tribal politician of the worst kind.
I am sure the cameras in the council will severely limit your ability to spin the truth until it's head hurts.
Anonymous said...Friday, February 28, 2014 11:16:00 pm.
I think I have explained this before. There are two reasons for putting forward any motion, the first is when you think you can actually win the vote, this is an extreme rarity for any opposition. The second reason is to keep an issue alive until such times as you can get an election with that issue fresh in people's minds which is by far the most common reason. It is a way of "nursing the electorate's wrath to keep it warm" if you will. These are the unwritten rules which parliamentarians live buy, including as I explained in my article snp parliamentarians as well, a fact which you have rather predictably chosen to ignore. I will repeat for you, if you genuinely think that Labour MP'S were wrong to absent themselves then you have to concede that the SNP MP'S I named were doing wrong as well, worse in fact because the fact that they absented themselves without being paired gave the Tory/Libdem government an advantage.
Labour did indeed introduce the original bedroom tax and we did so to prevent greedy landlords from exploiting the system put in place by the Tories to benefit their friends. The suggestion that this tax would have been used by Labour in the way the Tories have done just makes you look like an idiot,
Byeck said...Saturday, March 01, 2014 9:41:00 am.
Why didn't you point this out before?. Should I put out an order to have you shot?.
Anonymous said...Saturday, March 01, 2014 10:19:00 am
Yours is the third (anonymous) response to my article about the council meeting, all three have been hostile to what I wrote and are clearly from people who disagree with me. If you concentrate very hard you might notice that I have printed all three, that rather makes your assertions look biased as well as being stupid. I suspect that you have to practice a lot to become as ludicrous as this.
Kelly @ 1pm
Have me shot...How rude...And when I was being complimentary too. That's it...no more Mr Niceguy.
It's unfortunate that we can't get your TV debut down here, but perhaps on YouTube later? You could be another Rab C Nesbitt.
Byeck said...Saturday, March 01, 2014 2:16:00 pm.
I'm sorry you didn't find it funny but, what can I say except it was you who started with the jokes not me.
So Labour only see the Bedroom Tax as "nursing the electorates wrath to keep it warm" rather than trying to abolish the Tax! All SNP MP's supported the motion and voted for it (check Hansard) . Now we have Labour politicians trying to deny what is being said by their leaders in London. Rachel Reeves, we will cap benefits and agree the BT is one way of getting the right pele in the right houses. Ed Balls, we will keep to the Tory spending cuts and austerity programme. Ed Millionaireband, we will concentrate on middle income earners who are feeling the pinch. Oh how any real socialists left in Labour must weep!
As for your last sentence, well actions speak louder than rhetoric. Labour will "test" the unemployed just like the Tories. Reeves will cap peles benefit. Balls will keep the Tory cuts. Oh how any socialist left in Labour must weep!
I was directed to your site, as I could not believe what the individual was telling me about the site. Your very last phrase just proves them right.
I was once told " better people think you are an idiot than you speak and prove them right". Maybe worth a thought, Terry.
I won't be back to this site as it is pure drivel from an arrogant, delusional person who thinks they are the "font of all knowledge" and won't let facts get in the way of his story.
i have no intentions in accepting you loyalist propaganda, terry. but being a Nationalist, i will keep my head low.
I noticed the link to this blog on Wings over Scotland under the heading for zany comic relief, and I need to congratulate you, as spoofs and political satire go this is one of the better efforts, as if somebody like councilor Terry Kelly could really exist in 21st century Scotland, ha ha very funny. But you might want to be careful there is apparently a real councilor of that name, and being a modern progressive new labour type of chap, he might well sue you for representing him as a cynical labour politician who cares only about himself and his party, and that anybody in his ward who does not 100% back his narrow and jaundiced view are to be degraded at every opportunity by vile abuse and playground taunting.
But as I said personally I like your spoof blog and hope it is allowed to continue, perhaps the real Mr Kelly won't notice, because he spends so much time helping out at the numerous food banks down his way.(when he's not out out frightening old people about their pensions.
An awful lot to say for someone who hasn't even got the bottle to identify him/herself. Another typical snp coward.
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