Saturday, September 26, 2009


Here is the full Ben Gurion quote - "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"

Speaking at the UN President Obama stated that Iran must play by the rules: they must obey UN resolutions; this was in reference to the latest American allegations about their attempts to create nuclear weapons or Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD’s) as they like to label them. BTW when is a WMD not a WMD? The answer is when it is owned by us or our friends then it becomes a Nuclear Deterrent; when it is owned by someone whom we or more importantly America doesn’t like, that’s when it becomes a WMD. This of course means that our nuclear weapons are OK because we are the goodies and Iran or anyone else we don’t like are the baddies right? No it’s not right, the elephant in the room as always is the rogue apartheid state of Israel; All the drivel and weasel words about nuclear weapons and WMD’s as well as the sanctimonious c**p about the inviolability of United Nations Resolutions should have choked Obama; he and we are guilty of breathtaking hypocrisy.

The simple facts are that Israel has hundreds of illegal nuclear weapons and are also in breach of many UN resolutions; in fact they actively ignore these resolutions every day and America and it’s friends look the other way; in fact it’s worse than that they finance them. America and Britain where our armed forces torture people and murder them as well as locking them up for years without charge or trial tell Iran to play by the rules; what rules? one might ask why are there two sets for a start? why does Israel get to keep it’s illegal WMD’s and others do not? is it because Israel is a nice country and Iran isn’t? Remember Gaza? A UN commission into the events in the Gaza strip last January has reported back and it’s contents should make everyone who lives in countries which support Israel shudder.

Remember the results - 1387 Palestinians dead 773 of them civilians including hundreds of women and children; 13 Israeli lives lost 10 of whom were soldiers 5 by friendly fire; the report condemns Israel’s war crimes and the Israeli response is the old cry of Anti Semitism; they would be as well telling the UN and the rest of the world to F**k off because the Americans are on our side; we can do what we want. The knock out blow should have been the fact that the figures come from a brave Israel human rights group called B’Tselem whom they also ignore. Phosphorous bombs; human shields; the destruction of schools and hospitals; homes with people in them destroyed were witnessed by a world audience and still Israel denies the charges and defies the world.

The number of Jews who are horrified at Israel’s actions continue to grow and the suffering of the Palestinian people goes on; they are denied basic human rights by the Israeli occupiers and treated like animals; denied any dignity and goaded and insulted constantly. These crimes are being committed by a people who suffered unspeakable cruelty and genocide at the hands of the Nazis and they are now treating others with cruelty and barbarity; what is going on in their minds.

I started out with fierce criticism of Obama but he is still the best hope for the Palestinians to regain their country and their place in the world; which is the same place as you and me; a free and just homeland. Someone once said that when someone gains a country someone else loses one and Israel will never see peace until the exiled Arabs return from exile to a just and peaceful land perhaps Obama will seal his place in history and bring it about.


Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Bang On! Rank hypcrisy of the US and the UK.

Here is a link to something that might interest you Terry:

Publish Reject
(Anonymous) 27/09/

I rarely link to other sites and certainly not to ones which I don’t understand; perhaps you could be a bit more specific about your views.

Anonymous said...

My father who served as a communist councillor for 25 years, must be turning in his grave at your nazi like ideas.

There is, nor was there ever a country called Palestine. Nor were there ever a people of that name. Palestine was, and still is a region, the inhabitants were Palestinian Arabs, Palestinian Jews, Palestinian Christians and Bedouins

The Palestinian Arabs of the region which is now Israel ,were urged to leave by their leaders, with the promise of return, They were never evicted.

** Fatah chief Mahmoud Abbas says the Arabs of the Galilee city of Tzfat left in 1948 not because they were driven out, but on their own volition.
Abbas admitted that his family was not expelled or driven out, but rather left for fear that the Jews might take revenge for the slaughter of 20 Jews in the city during the Arab pogroms of 19 years earlier.***

The majority of the Gazan Arabs, are the people who were thrown out of Jordan, during the Black September uprising and Jordan has said they will not take them back, as they are trouble makers.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

"Why should the Arabs make peace? If I was an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it's true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been anti-Semitism the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that?” (David Ben Gurion first Israeli Prime Minister)

“I must tell the truth it is like being back in South Africa under apartheid” (Archbishop Desmond Tutu) on visiting the Israeli separation wall.

I wonder how your late communist father would feel about his son being an apologist for war criminals and racists.

Anonymous said...

Supporting a country that was voted for in the UN, is not being being an apologist for war criminals and racists.

He visited the country a few times and was very impressed by it.

You need to look at what is actually happening there and not be blind sided by lies.

A friend of mine recently visited Israel. She has a cousin who lives there. She met for dinner one evening with his foreman, an Israeli Arab

She spoke with him in Arabic. he said he is a very proud Israeli Arab, who lives in the best country in the world. He has the best ree medical care and both ofhis children attened university free of charge.

He told her that it is a pity that the 'do-gooders' come there and critise Israel and have no idea of the true story of what is happening. Most of what people see is a far cry from the truth

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 09:57
“You need to look at what is actually happening there and not be blind sided by lies”

The outright winner in the most stupid comment competition goes to you.

These are pathetic comments you are an apologist for evil. The UN which you site has been ignored for years by the criminals in Israel when it has told them repeatedly to withdraw from the occupied territories and stop stealing Arab land; what planet are you on.

Shirl in Oz said...

Forget it, you are a one eyed racist antisemite, no doubt there at all.

Shirl in Oz said...

From the web site Labour Friends of Israel, so you can't cite Israeli bias.

Rockets fired from Gaza to 7 January 2009
Key figures
8,500+ rockets and mortars in total fired from Gaza into Israel since 2001
5,700+ rockets and mortars fired from Gaza since Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005
3,200+ rockets and mortars fired from Gaza in 2008
543 rockets and mortars fired from Gaza into Israeli territory during the ceasefire period from 19
June to 19 December 2008
700+ rockets and mortars fired from Gaza into Israeli territory since Hamas unilaterally
renounced the ceasefire on 19 December 2008

Since Hamas’ violent takeover of Gaza in June 2007, the frequency of rocket attacks rose by
150 percent to more than 250 rockets and mortars a month. On average, one rocket has been
fired at Israel every three hours.

All Israel's fault I suppose. You need to take off your rose coloured spectacles and see the truth

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 04/12/09
It doesn’t take long for the anti Semitic slur to surface when Israel is criticised does it? It’s no argument and it is pathetic.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 05/12/09

“All Israel's fault I suppose”

You bet it is; if Israel had not stolen the Palestinians land and were not still doing the same thing and building illegal settlements on Arab land there would be no conflict; it is the fault of Israel and the Zionist blood soaked gangsters who rule them.

Anonymous said...

>> Here is the full Ben Gurion quote

No it's not. It's falsified.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Alec has spoken again: you have taken too many hits lately: you need to go lie down.