Monday, January 08, 2007
SCOTTISH BLOGGING ROUNDUP ?
The above named site is a self appointed critic of peoples blogs, so what, well, it gives me a chance to let you know what some of these right wing/nationalists/libertarians are like and just how inane and pathetic they can be. Along with some other sites they have made a big ( bogus ) issue of me not posting comments, despite my statement that I would print anything which was not abusive, I also pointed out that I'm not aware of any way to disprove what they say, so they don't have to prove their allegations. Anyway if you read this site which is really quite hard going, you will find this accusation levelled against me, then a wee bit further down you read that they have decided that they are censuring me and I'm to be excluded. Well what are we to make of this ? the brave new world of the libertarian blog didn't take long to buckle did it ? Mr Ferrer of Whiskey & Freedom has done the same, as have others, hardly a robust reaction from these brave ground breakers is it ? give me my old muddle headed mate 'reactionary snob' anytime, he talks absolute rubbish but at least he does it while standing on his feet.
Posted by Cllr Terry Kelly at Monday, January 08, 2007
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"I'm not aware of any way to disprove what they say..."
Why not publish a selection of the comments, and let people make up their own mind who's telling the truth? Just a thought.
Blogging roundup has been around for a couple of years, certainly since I have started. And of course there is a big difference between "anarchy" of no rules and "Libertarian" where people can take an opinion and express it because they "own" the blog.
It always amuses me how often you get the two mixed up.
How is the prep for the election going? Looking forward to meeting me?
Terry says he's 'against nationalism' yet in reality he's against democracy. If Scotland, Wales and England want independence and an end to the far right British imperialist state who is he to say no?
The Labour party are not socialists they are Tories with pink ties and if Terry is still in it he's not a socialist either.
Support Trident Terry?
Labour do. SNP, Greens, SSP don't.
Support sooking up to George Bush Terry?
Support sending your kids to private school?
Support the House of Lords?
Labour do. They've only 'reformed it' enough to have Tory's chums included.
Support the Honours system?
All this stuff could be washed away and a new start for Scotland had with independence. Think about it.
Otherwise you've got the choice of Brown, Blair or Cameron which is no choice at all.
Check out this site Terry if you want to know more (in general terms) about independence: http://www.scottishindependence.com
RFS - cut it which ever way you like but it's obvious to me that you and the rest of your incestuous right wing cabal are quite happy to censure what they don't agree with, you are no different from anyone else except that you won't admit it. I'll try again about 'meeting you' why should I want to meet someone who doesn't have the bottle to ID himself or stand for election. If you are still on about a hustings meeting let me explain again, such a meeting would be presumably open to all parties (or would you censure that to) you, in terms of local politics are a nonentity if you are in fact a Tory you are even more of a nonentity. I, on the other hand would be subjected to abuse and get shouted down continually by the SSP and SNP mob. You clearly don't know what you are talking about if you want a hustings meeting, but I suspect you know that and you are hiding behind it so you can talk tough.
Will - You will no doubt be delighted to know that I have not found it necessary to delete any comments for over three weeks, if people resort to vile and abusive language I won't print it. I have said this from the start.
freescotlandnow - I have no hesitation whatsoever in directing people to this site - I urge you to keep it up. You might however want to consider whether your approach is a bit too sophisticated for your average gnat.
The only comments I delete are spam (i.e. spam messages that have no relation to the discussion). People can call me what they please or pick apart my views if they can be bothered.
It is interesting that you should mention getting shouted down during public meetings.
I remember the last [Westminster] election and particularly the count. I was there.
When the Paisley and Renfrewshire North result was announced I remember standing behind a group of Labour councillors (one of which, the most vocal of which, bore a striking resemblance to your photos in the switching on of the lights post). The vocal one bellowed "traitor" and "traitorous bastard" at the stage when a diminutive man with a huge porn star moustache went to make a concession speech. His name was Hogg and like yourself he claims to be a socialist. Difference was he had the balls to jump ship to the SSP.
When he spoke the whole Labour group (councillors and party workers) erupted in venom and shouted him down. One of the elected types then turned round and looked me in the eye muttering to me "turncoat". I wonder if he realised how petty they looked and needed to justify himself to the rest of us?
So I guess you would not wholly be the victim if you were verbally abused at a hustings then?
RFS - It wasn't traitorous it was treacherous b------ you've got the traitor Hogg wrong he jumped because he didn't have the b---- to stay and also because he failed to become a Labour MSP candidate, nothing more noble than that. Behind me were the SSP some of whom pathetically tried to threaten me, I assume that you were in mufti then as well if you were that close to me. You clearly no nothing about me & Hogg. You might have noticed that this was not a hustings but don't let that get in the way will you.
RFS - PS I bow to your superior knowledge of pornography.
Cllr, I'm here following a link, which of course you'll know as you're doubtless installed the referral tracker of your choice.
I understand your main gripe is not with RFS, nor other commenters here, but with the two main writers of the roundup, Duncan and Garry, is this correct?
And you seem to think that both are 'right wing' and nationalist?
As I've been reading both of their main blogs for two years, can I ask how you've come to this conclusion, and what you define as 'right wing'?
Because from what I've seen of their writing, both are a little to the left of the current Westminster Govt. Can't speak for Holyrood, I'm not a Scot, which of course you'll also know as your blog will be tracking the locations of commenters in order to protect yourself against potentially libellous statements made by psuedonymous commenters.
I do have to agree with a general sentiment. A round up of the best has to be of the best written, best researched, most well rounded presentations of the time period alloted.
I believe self-nomination is acceptable, if you do feel that you have written articles of note. Care to point anything out as I seem to have missed them.
ps; the best tradition in blogs is to delete abusive comments after they've gone live, so that your friends and supportive readers can see the problems you refer to. I tend to leave mine in place, they're funny.
If you knew me you would know that EVERYONE bows to my superior knowledge of porno ;)
No it was not a hustings, as I said it was an election count, the cornerstone of our democracy and you and your colleagues actions were childish to say the least. The point is that Labour, SNP and SSP in Renfrewshire are clearly as bad as each other and maybe if you all stopped screaming bigoted statements at each other then the Council may be held in better regard by the public (although I understand the Police have stopped putting officers on standby during full meetings).
Oh, and I assume that when you say "me & Hogg" you are referring to the time that I pissed myself laughing as he tried to take your daughter to court for the nasty leaflets she produced during their council election runoff?
How did that end? Court and an appearance in Private Eye if I remember correctly.
RFS - Im not referring to that case and what it ended in was no case to answer and costs against the traitor Hogg. I take it you must be one of the tens of thousands in Renfrewshire who read Private Eye. Are you lazy or thick or a mixture of both, you must be able to try harder than that, are you not worried about making a fool of yourself ?
I don't doubt your devotion to pornography I just wouldn't like to shake your hand, and thank you for your prompt answer you obviously don't mind in the least making a complete fool of yourself.
"If only those big nasty politicians would be nice to each other" your bottle has crashed, your pathetic, if this was a fight the referee would have stopped it by now to save you further punishment.
matgb - I wouldn't know a 'referral tracker' if one of them shook my hand and spoke to me. Duncan & Garry gave me the impression that they were right wing and nationalist but I will concede that that, depends on where an individual himself stands, for that reason as well, trying to define right wing would be rather pointless, I would need to write a book covering all the bases so, you can continue to see them as to the left and I will differ. 'Tracking commenters, protecting myself against potential libel by psuedonymous commentors' I'm lost here. I got the impression that Duncan & Garry were not excluding me because I wasn't good enough but because they didn't like what I had to say, I must look again. If you have read my blog you don't need me to point out what is good that's not very subtle now is it ? re. printing abusive comments, I'll compromise, I'll print them with the proviso that the writers I.D. themselves.
You are not the first socialist to try to claim victory against me while I have danced rings round them.
Am I thick and lazy for reading Private Eye? What about reading about the case in the PDE?
Seriously, only one of us is winning here and it ain't you. And that is because I have a sense of humour.
I suppose if you say you have danced rings round me it must be true. I'm quite sanguine about that and people can make up their own minds. You sound like someone who has been damaged as a child by over indulgence, shout louder and you will get your way, poor parenting to blame. I'm glad to hear that you have been blessed with the famous right wing sense of humour, read some of your own blog, more sinister than funny I'd say - you are boring me now, can I cut you out now without being accused of stifling debate, I really can't be bothered with you anymore, I'm guilty as well as your parents, enough.
oh dear.....I have just found your blog, as mentioned in Clairwil's. It is quite as horrible as described. As an ex-patriot Scot who came south to try to help run the country in a decent manner(I can remember the last time the English did that themselves), I do think that you make a really good case for we Scots to have proper border controls and do everyone a favour by at least stopping people like you from getting out.........
scunnered - thank you for that I couldn't have made my case any better than you just did. things will be better when you and the other anonymous stormtroopers from clairwils etc. take over. I had no idea until I started this blogging thing that so many Scots were cowards.
I don't know if your posting my comment represents your at least having surplus balls where unnecessary, or a few less glass ones where they might be useful, but your belief in Stormtroopers might indicate that you maybe do come from an era that was a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away.........
keep up the good fight.....
scunnered - you can depend on it that I will print your balanced, intelligent comments with relish. would you consider cleaning up your typical SNP language ?
Hi again, Terry
SNP language? Cho skrunee dopat, sleemo. Wrong spy, Terry....
I almost feel insulted, I don't have a small enough mind to be a Scots Gnat...
keep trogging on....
scunnered - you are clearly too clever for the rest of us.
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