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Friday, December 28, 2007
THE BEST POLITICAL CARTOON OF 2007 FROM THE SCOTSMAN
33 comments:
Anonymous
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Why are no women allowed to comment here?
You've mentioned one being banned, you've called a black woman a liar for talking about racism but then no others have been allowed to comment.
Lovely to know I'm the subject of discussion in the salons of Paisley Cllr., but seriously,I think your 'women are thick' comment is going to play really, really badly if the SNP, Mossad, the Mormons or, heaven forbid, Wee Wendy get hold of it.
I don't believe your 'it's a joke' line is going to cut the mustard, especially with Wendy.
Nothing else for it Big Man, it's either a walk in the woods with a blunt knife and a bottle of paracetomol or an abject apology.
What a feeble excuse to try to extricate himself from another lumbering blundering display of his true thought processes. A simple apology would have been fine but Terry and Labour don't do apologies. (except to their colonial masters for losing Scotland)
Terry has 'friends'? I hope he's not taking advice off Wendy or Tommy.
So if someone had accused you of racism you'd have said blacks or Asians are thick would you?
Nah thought not. You might think women are a legitimate target but some of us regard them as equals.
Those of us committed to the struggle against oppression tend to reflect and respond sensitively when criticised by the people we defend. Any time you want to join us you'll be welcome Councillor.
“Those of us committed to the struggle against oppression “ This is a wind up right ? If you don’t like the humour, take it up with Ms. Devlin she started it.
Who are 'we'. Lot's of folk Party members, feminists, anti-racists, queer activists, members of the public.
Until now I thought you stood in solidarity with us.
Try and reflect. Look at how many of womens concerns are dismissed because it was just a joke. How many gropes are dismissed because they are just a bit of fun. How many porno pics are displayed in hostile workplaces because only an uptight prude would object? How many women have been driven out politics because of attitudes like yours.
“Who are 'we'. Lot's of folk Party members, feminists, anti-racists, queer activists, members of the public“. This describes me.
I was sent a comment asking why I didn’t print women on my blog, a deliberate attempt to wind me up so I wound back. I am absolutely confident that anyone who knows me knows it was a joke. I’m also confident that you are trying to make capital out of it so, who are we ? Why can’t you answer ? Party members ? Which Party ?
Why the obsession with Richard Manser, what has he done ?
No they are not and this was not a sexist joke it was a joke. An attempt to wound with humour someone who was trying to wind me up, I think you protest too much or is that sexist too ?
(Rabbie) 03/01/08 - I’ve had one other person who wrote to me accepting it was a joke but complained it was bad taste and you. Those who predicted that you would bite are loving your reaction.
Terry I showed your post and comments to Dr Sigmund who treats me for the headaches and his reaction was 'Hells teeth, Kelly could make me famous.' Why dont you just apologise, before the Daughters of Flora MacDonald (Paisley Branch)come for you with blunt claymores and blood in their eye?
Today’s Herald has about 20 comments on this story some are joining in the fun but, most are attacking me and of course trying their best to link this to Wendy. None of them however have suggested that this was anything other than a joke.
Here’s a question for you - do you believe that I was serious when I said that women were thick or do you believe it was a joke ?
(Kelly @ 10.56) Cllr, I believe that it was a damn stupid thing for a politician to say and only someone of your arrogance would be surprised at the outrage it caused.
Why dont you apologise for being a very silly boy, say 'Lessons have been learned,' draw a line under it and move on.
If I persevere enough I can even get someone like you to tell the truth, you know as the rest of them do that it was a joke and it does not mean that I’m sexist, well done.
The bad news is you failed to tell the truth about ‘the outrage’ there is no outrage except the phoney one being worked up by the SNP, designed of course to get Wendy, if I hadn’t been Wendy’s agent in the past there would have been no story.
I suppose it’s too much to expect you to tackle the whole truth ?
Cllr, I'm bored with this, let us move on. Please see my comment on your 'Desperate nasty people' post concerning your becoming Wendy's ex agent and attempt to give us a believable reason for this about turn
Terry - did someone introduce you to photoshop and replace Jack's head with Alex's for a laugh? You didn't seem too bothered about Jack's schmoozing of Donald Trump? Double standards? Shurely shome mishtake....
Councillor, As you are well aware from my earlier supportive comments on your blog I am a member of the Labour Party. Its true that I have some reservations about current policies but until your shameful outburst I thought we were on the same side.
As for what Richard Manser has done, I can't believe that you don't know. What he did to that young girl was all over the papers when the case was at court.
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33 comments:
Why are no women allowed to comment here?
You've mentioned one being banned, you've called a black woman a liar for talking about racism but then no others have been allowed to comment.
Councillor are you a sexist?
(Patricia Devlin) 30/12/07 - You have just perfectly demonstrated why, it’s because they are thick.
'Women are thick.'
Dear oh dear - that's a cracker even by your high standards. Are you planning on pleading insanity or irony?
(Rabbie)01/01/08
I discussed this with some friends who keep up with my site and they all agreed that you would bite.
I don’t think you would get irony so, it was a joke but she, ‘Ms. Devlin’ started it.
Lovely to know I'm the subject of discussion in the salons of Paisley Cllr., but seriously,I think your 'women are thick' comment is going to play really, really badly if the SNP, Mossad, the Mormons or, heaven forbid, Wee Wendy get hold of it.
I don't believe your 'it's a joke' line is going to cut the mustard, especially with Wendy.
Nothing else for it Big Man, it's either a walk in the woods with a blunt knife and a bottle of paracetomol or an abject apology.
(Rabbie) 16:15 -
If you are happy to keep making a fool of yourself I’ll keep printing you.
Terry,
Wendy Alexander is living proof that there are women on this planet who are considerably cleverer than you.
What a feeble excuse to try to extricate himself from another lumbering blundering display of his true thought processes. A simple apology would have been fine but Terry and Labour don't do apologies. (except to their colonial masters for losing Scotland)
Terry has 'friends'? I hope he's not taking advice off Wendy or Tommy.
So if someone had accused you of racism you'd have said blacks or Asians are thick would you?
Nah thought not. You might think women are a legitimate target but some of us regard them as equals.
Those of us committed to the struggle against oppression tend to reflect and respond sensitively when criticised by the people we defend. Any time you want to join us you'll be welcome Councillor.
Incidentally how is Richard Manser these days?
(Kara Drummond) 02/01/08 -
“Those of us committed to the struggle against oppression “ This is a wind up right ? If you don’t like the humour, take it up with Ms. Devlin she started it.
“the people we defend” who are ‘we’ ?
(Anonymous) 02/01/08 _
there are lots of women cleverer than me and men as well but, judging by your reaction you are not one of them.
Terry
Looks like I was right - 'It's just a joke' isn't working for you is it?
Forget my 'blunt knife and paracetemol walk in the woods' crack (THAT WAS A JOKE) and be a brave wee Councillor - aplogise.
Do it for Wendy.
Oh come on. Terry was clearly joking. He does not need to apologise.
So are you saying that sexist joke are okay? Do you also make racist jokes and if not what is the difference?
Who are 'we'. Lot's of folk Party members, feminists, anti-racists, queer activists, members of the public.
Until now I thought you stood in solidarity with us.
Try and reflect. Look at how many of womens concerns are dismissed because it was just a joke. How many gropes are dismissed because they are just a bit of fun. How many porno pics are displayed in hostile workplaces because only an uptight prude would object? How many women have been driven out politics because of attitudes like yours.
It's not on and you know it.
But how is Richard Manser?
(Kara Drummond) 04/01/08 -
“Who are 'we'. Lot's of folk Party members, feminists, anti-racists, queer activists, members of the public“. This describes me.
I was sent a comment asking why I didn’t print women on my blog, a deliberate attempt to wind me up so I wound back. I am absolutely confident that anyone who knows me knows it was a joke. I’m also confident that you are trying to make capital out of it so, who are we ? Why can’t you answer ? Party members ? Which Party ?
Why the obsession with Richard Manser, what has he done ?
(Anonymous) 04/01/08 -
No they are not and this was not a sexist joke it was a joke. An attempt to wound with humour someone who was trying to wind me up, I think you protest too much or is that sexist too ?
(Rabbie) 03/01/08 - I’ve had one other person who wrote to me accepting it was a joke but complained it was bad taste and you. Those who predicted that you would bite are loving your reaction.
Terry
I showed your post and comments to Dr Sigmund who treats me for the headaches and his reaction was 'Hells teeth, Kelly could make me famous.'
Why dont you just apologise, before the Daughters of Flora MacDonald (Paisley Branch)come for you with blunt claymores and blood in their eye?
(Rabbie) 04/01/08 -
Keep it coming, I should add that men are thick as well, that’s a predominantly Scottish thing though.
"I should add that men are thick as well."
As a male, albeit one otherwise abled, and indeed otherwise Scottish, I resent that remark.
(Dennis) 05/01/08 - Quite right Dennis, you stand up for yourself.
Kara Drummond -
"Feminists are just women who need a man around the house" - Jerry Falwell
(the anti-Terry) 16:37
If I had thought that this would lead to you or any other feminist making such a bloody fool of themselves I would not have made the joke.
(Cllr Kelly 5.03)'....I wouldn't have made the joke.'
A bit like Wendy, Hain, Harman etc., if they'd known they would be caught, they wouldn't have taken the money.
Terry, you did not make a joke, you made a crass miscalculation.
Be manly, apologise and all will be forgiven.
(Rabbie) 07/01/08 -
Today’s Herald has about 20 comments on this story some are joining in the fun but, most are attacking me and of course trying their best to link this to Wendy. None of them however have suggested that this was anything other than a joke.
Here’s a question for you - do you believe that I was serious when I said that women were thick or do you believe it was a joke ?
(Kelly @ 10.56)
Cllr, I believe that it was a damn stupid thing for a politician to say and only someone of your arrogance would be surprised at the outrage it caused.
Why dont you apologise for being a very silly boy, say 'Lessons have been learned,' draw a line under it and move on.
(Rabbie) 15:55 -
If I persevere enough I can even get someone like you to tell the truth, you know as the rest of them do that it was a joke and it does not mean that I’m sexist, well done.
The bad news is you failed to tell the truth about ‘the outrage’ there is no outrage except the phoney one being worked up by the SNP, designed of course to get Wendy, if I hadn’t been Wendy’s agent in the past there would have been no story.
I suppose it’s too much to expect you to tackle the whole truth ?
Cllr, I'm bored with this, let us move on.
Please see my comment on your 'Desperate nasty people' post concerning your becoming Wendy's ex agent and attempt to give us a believable reason for this about turn
Terry - did someone introduce you to photoshop and replace Jack's head with Alex's for a laugh? You didn't seem too bothered about Jack's schmoozing of Donald Trump? Double standards? Shurely shome mishtake....
(Rabbie) 16:37 -
Go and read it - do you want me to believe that you didn’t notice me saying ‘umpteen’ times that I was not Wendy’s agent ?
(Tartan Hero) 17:40 -
I know you are not a second year pupil so why are you talking like this ?
Your comparison of Jack and Alex (the spiv) is a bit desperate.
Councillor,
As you are well aware from my earlier supportive comments on your blog I am a member of the Labour Party. Its true that I have some reservations about current policies but until your shameful outburst I thought we were on the same side.
As for what Richard Manser has done, I can't believe that you don't know. What he did to that young girl was all over the papers when the case was at court.
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