19/12/11 to the full council where we were treated to a carol concert by kids from St. Charles’s primary school and a Christmas greeting by Father Oliver from St. Fergus’s church in my ward of Ferguslie park. He stunned everyone by getting them to join with him in singing “I wish it could be Christmas every day” in his deep lovely Irish brogue, no Herald angels or mangers here, a bit of a character is father Oliver and he can carry a tune as well.
Labour had a motion on the table designed to put to bed for good the daft and dangerous policy of cutting teaching time in our primary schools. This was the policy of the SNP/Libdem council, it was completely destroyed by parents, pupils and opposition councillors including us in the Labour Group in an unprecedented campaign which caused the SNP ’tae think again’ the Libdems are incapable of thought but they ran away as well.
Some SNP and Libdem councillors did not take kindly to such a humiliation by the electorate and either refused to comment at the time or in some cases still mumbled that the idea was still a good one. It is no surprise that Cllr. Eileen McCartin made it known that she still saw merit in the plan, not really a surprise from a woman who has never made a mistake or got anything wrong in her life. Here at this meeting we witnessed something different from the bellicose McCartin she actually said nothing! a rare event from a woman who will quite happily lecture anyone who will listen to her on brain surgery and rocket science. I tried to get her to repeat her insulting claim that she received approx. 100 letters/emails supporting the plan to cut primary school hours but the Provost came to her rescue and ruled me out of order, I will continue to ask her to do this, perhaps she could show us the emails and letters but I suspect she would claim to have binned them what do you think?
We also tried to get the SNP/Libdem cabal to give schools more money based on growing evidence that teachers are paying for materials from their own pockets, a scandal which has been going on for some time. The SNP led Council refused to do so and also refused to accept that teachers were in fact doing this, in fact they treated the teachers with the same contempt that they showed when they tried to reduce teaching time in our primary schools and when they got rid of some 300 teaching posts since they came to power, this is what we can expect under Nationalism.
They also overturned a motion to re regulate the buses proving if proof were needed that they prefer market forces and naked profit to providing services, we should call this “The Souter Doctrine” £500,000 buys an awful lot of SNP principles doesn’t it, as the great Groucho Marx once said “these are my principles, if you don’t like them I have another set you could try” That should be the SNP/Libdem slogan.
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Terry,
Labour were in power for a very long time before the SNP.
Why did they not re regulate the buses?
Or is that too difficult a question for you to answer?
That is not a defence, it’s a cop out. I have always been in favour of bus regulation and I still am, how about the SNP they dropped plans to re regulate buses when Souter bought them off with £500,000. Because we didn’t do it doesn’t mean we are in favour of de - regulation it seems the SNP are though.
Salmond was calling on the Labour Government to further de - regulate the banking system prior to the global financial collapse he is an enthusiastic de - regulator or put another way he’s a Tory and he is your leader.
It is not a cop out at all.
I just wondered why Labour are now so keen for regulating the buses but did absolutely nothing about it when they were in power and had the means to do so.
The cop out is not providing an explanation for this. But then you do have a tendency to run away from the difficult questions.
.By Ronnie on THE FULL COUNCIL - CAROLS - THE SINGING PRIEST AND... at 15:49
Difficult questions? Salmond and the banks? Souter’s money? Your’e having a laugh right?
bernie ecclestone got fag advertising exempt from ads being banned on his wee toy racing cars = donation to Labour party
mittel bros got nice shiny new passports = donation to labour party
can't even mention what Mandelson got on a yacht in the med, Gadaffi or Berculosi but I think it cleared up.
Sleaze, Sleaze and more Sleaze
Terry, given that they didn't have Salmond and the banks, or Souters money to take heed off,why didn't Labour act on the bus issue
Again you have ran away.
You are not only an imbecile but a very cowardly one at that.
By Ronnie on THE FULL COUNCIL - CAROLS - THE SINGING PRIEST AND... on 22/12/11
Salmond and the banks, Souter’s money, who is running away. I don’t have to call you an imbecile do I? People just need to read your comments.
By Anonymous on THE FULL COUNCIL - CAROLS - THE SINGING PRIEST AND... on 21/12/11
Are you happy to be defined by Labour, have you nothing to say in defence of the SNP. What are you afraid of, does Salmond (The Spiv) read my blog?
By Anonymous on THE FULL COUNCIL - CAROLS - THE SINGING PRIEST AND... on 21/12/11
Bernie Ecclestone’s donation was returned Souter’s was not.
The Mittel Bros. Did not get new passports the Hinduja Bros. did.
These Tory right wing Press accusations caused the resignation of Peter Mandelson who was subsequently cleared by an independent report by Sir. Anthony Hammond QC who stated that neither he (Mandelson) or anyone else had done anything improper in the affair.
You can’t mention what Mandelson got in a yacht in the Med. Because it’s another attempt by the right wing press (whom you are happy to agree with) to slander him.
Gadaffi and Berculosi (whoever he/she is) likewise. You are a liar and a lazy sleaze bag and it’s no wonder you are anonymous, your comments are pathetic and look as if they have been written by a rather dull witted 5 year old.
Ronnie is quite right here Terry.
Labour were in power for yonks and absolutely hee haw about trying to regulate the buses.
Can you not answer the man and tell him why.
It seems totally hypyocritical that you are whingeing about this when you had the power to do something about it but did nothing.
Soutar may or may not be buying influence in the SNP but one thing is for sure is that teachers do put their hands in their own pockets to pay for resources.
Since the first SNP minority government and the election of the SNP / Lib Dem administration in Cotton St, education budgets have been mercilessly slashed to pay for the council tax freeze.
Even before the banks caved in, the number of teachers posts had fallen, schools budget cut and education was diminished. The plan to use "specialists" in primary schools had nothing to do with improving education but reducing costs and cutting jobs.
The SNP are only interested in putting veneer on the services that a council should provide to its electorate by paying only lip service to its responsibilities.
.By Alison on THE FULL COUNCIL - CAROLS - THE SINGING PRIEST AND... at 12:22
Perhaps you could set your mind to answering the criticism levelled at the SNP. I will repeat it for you, we; (Labour) put forward a motion calling for the re - regulation of buses and the SNP voted it down. That rather suggests that we (Labour) are in favour of re - regulating buses and the SNP are not, unless I’ve missed something. Would you like to address that?
.By Oakwood on THE FULL COUNCIL - CAROLS - THE SINGING PRIEST AND... at 13:10
Teachers morale is at rock bottom because of the sustained attack by the SNP in Renfrewshire, it is well known that teachers are buying materials using their own money.
The attempt to cut teaching time in primaries was such a horror of an idea that no one except the SNP/Libdem nonentities would back it proving once again that the council is not being run by councillors.
Councillor, it is not well known, at least, not by me, that teachers are using their own money to buy educational essentials, so, evidence please.
And to repeat my earlier question, given that Labour had to take neither the banks, or Souters money into account, why did tbey not act on the bus issue when they were in power?
Compliments of the season Terry. Here's to a bright and beautiful 2012. As Labour were all but wiped off the electoral map during the 2011 elections most of us in this country look forward to the same thing happening in May 2012. However, we should not underestimate your contribution to this marvelous state of affairs (and the beauty is that you still don't get it!). You and your ilk, who have lied to and cheated your constituents for so long and have had the arrogance to pretend that the right of centre party that you now represent has somehow been acting in their interests, are finished. Your party first, pocket second and people last attitude has finally been found out (the tragedy is that it took so long). However, you appear completely oblivious to the fact, so keep up the good work. With appalling hypocrites like you around it's only a matter of time until the last of your generation are completely voted out. Fortunately, the younger generation in this country don't seem to be as susceptible to self-interested politicians like yourself. Must be a function of the digital age in that they can access information for themselves and don't have to rely on lies and propaganda.
Anyway, as I said, keep up the good work. You deserve some sort of recognition for your contribution to the independence cause.
By Anonymous on THE FULL COUNCIL - CAROLS - THE SINGING PRIEST AND... at 09:36
If this bluster is true why aren’t you calling for your referendum now, big elephant in the room there eh?
By Anonymous on THE FULL COUNCIL - CAROLS - THE SINGING PRIEST AND... on 22/12/11
It is well known that teachers are spending their own money but it is predictable that you would lie about it.
Labour put up a motion to regulate the busses and the SNP/Libdems and a Tory voted it down, why?
Terry,
Does renfrewshire Council have the power to re regulate the buses by themselves?
By Anonymous on THE FULL COUNCIL - CAROLS - THE SINGING PRIEST AND... at 15:08
Why are the SNP, the Libdems and Tories against re-regulation of the busses?
why is Labour now for it now they are in opposition at every level of government? When they could have done it? along with scrapping the bar against catholics being the head royal sponger?
Cynics or what.
I was asking if Renfrewshire Council can re-regulate the buses on their own.
.By Anonymous on THE FULL COUNCIL - CAROLS - THE SINGING PRIEST AND... on 23/12/11
And I’m asking you why the SNP are opposed to re - regulation of the busses.
.By Anonymous on THE FULL COUNCIL - CAROLS - THE SINGING PRIEST AND... on 23/12/11
Why will no one answer me, why are the SNP opposed to re - regulation of the busses? and why are the SNP accepting the British Queen (along with the Catholic ban) as their head of state and chief royal scrounger if they ever become independent?
"Teachers morale is at rock bottom because of the sustained attack by the SNP in Renfrewshire, it is well known that teachers are buying materials using their own money."
I know you are not in The States but for my curiosity can the teachers who incur expenses on their own deduct same from their taxes with receipts as proof of purchase?
Arthur Kelly Chicago/Craigneuk
Anonymous on THE FULL COUNCIL - CAROLS - THE SINGING PRIEST AND... at 13:38
Education authorities/Governments - would never allow teachers to decide what will be bought and what won’t, it would be great if they did and also allow them to determine the salaries of everyone from the Director of Education through the Head Teacher all the way to the school cleaner.
Vote for “Comrade Arthur Kelly of The Chicago Socialist Party” You can take the boy out of Craigneuk but you can’t take Craigneuk out of the boy.
“these are my principles, if you don’t like them I have another set you could try”
GROUCHO MARX
"We would raise council tax to protect front line services"
"We will freeze council tax for 2 years"
THE LABOUR PARTY
You couldn't make it up!!!
By Anonymous on THE FULL COUNCIL - CAROLS - THE SINGING PRIEST AND... on 28/12/11
I’ll try again, I’m a patient man. Why do the SNP support the British Queen and oppose re-regulation of the busses, can no one in the SNP answer these 2 simple questions?
Ok Terry, I honestly do not know why SNP, LIb Dems And Tories are all against re regulating the buses.
I am not running away from this, I just do not know the answer and would be please if you could explain why ALL THREE of these parties are against this . I await your enlightening response.
Now that I have answered your question, could you be so kind as to answer the following questions which have been raised but you have ran away from.
1. Does Renfrewshire Council have the power/authority to re regulate the buses on their own?
2. If Labour are so in favour of re regulating the buses, why did they do nothing about this when they had the power to do so.
It would appear that Labour have never had any interest in re regulating the buses until they no longer had the power to do so.
Whilst I think it will be a very long time before Labour get back into power in Scotland or Renfrewshire, it would be very interesting if they did and they could be held account to all the things that they have complained about recently whilst honouring their newly stolen policy of freezing the council tax.
LABOUR - OUR PRINCIPLES ARE FOR SALE IF IT MEANS A VOTE
By Ronnie on THE FULL COUNCIL - CAROLS - THE SINGING PRIEST AND... at 10:29
“why ALL THREE of these parties are against this“
The Tories because they are hidebound by party dogma on free markets and the SNP because they are in hawk to Souter, the Libdems don’t count because they stand for nothing and believe in nothing and will do what their paymasters tell them.
Your attempts to cause diversions are becoming risible.
Ronnie,
As Renfrewshire Council do not have the power or authority to re regulate the bus services, there can be only 2 reasons that Labour raised this at a Full meeting of Renfrewshire Council.
1. The Labour group are so thick and incompetent that they do not realise this (do not rule this out as it is very plausible).
2. They are just out to cause political mischief and wasting a lot of time at a meeting that is paid for by the taxpayer as are the wages of all those present.
The real question is why did Labour raise this motion at a meeting of a body that cannot action the change that they are requesting.
Take your pick.
1.Stupid incompetence
2.Political timewasting and throwing away of taxpayers money.
I think number 2 is most likely as this is general Labour policy.
By Alec on THE FULL COUNCIL - CAROLS - THE SINGING PRIEST AND... at 09:27
Ronnie. Perhaps you could ask Alec. If Renfrewshire Council have the power or authority to scrap Trident, impose Scottish Independence, close the House of Lords, force various British Prime Ministers to resign, demand that Gaelic be taught nationally etc. etc. etc. as these are a tiny sample of the ludicrous time wasting costly motions brought to council when the SNP were in opposition. I also recall a motion for the council to set up an investigation to find out if Elvis Pressley’s great, great , great grandparents came from Paisley as well as countless meetings being disrupted and causing the police to eject SNP members from the chamber as well as calling ’special council meetings’ for spurious reasons on a regular basis, at what cost I wonder?
I suspect that you won’t agree but it is very clear that Alec. Is a clown but at least he’s a good old Scottish clown right?
So let me see what you are saying here Terry!
When the SNP waste taxpayers time and money - that is BAD!
When Labour waste taxpayers time and money - that is GOOD!
And you have a cheek to call other people names. You would make a perfect clown Terry if there were clown outfits that were big enough.
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By Anonymous on THE FULL COUNCIL - CAROLS - THE SINGING PRIEST AND... at 11:12
How many SNP clowns are out there? Can you show me where I said Labour was wasting tax payer’s time and money?
Terry, alex salmond is now claiming he brouht down thatcher is there no end to this mans talent. Or is he just a liar
Anonymous - Tuesday, January 03, 2012 1:31:00 PM - Salmond brought down Thatcher!
To be fair to the (wee spiv) he admits to taking a rest on the seventh day.
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