Thursday, February 25, 2010

RENFREWSHIRE'S SNP/LIB. DEM. COUNCIL HAVE ANEW SONG - "OH WE CAN SHOVE YER CHILDREN AFF THE BUS"

Thursday Feb. 18Th. 2010 to Cotton Street for the full council meeting; the agenda suggested that it would be a quite event and no doubt the SNP led administration were hoping for just that; on arrival however their hopes were sunk as on approaching they saw a large crowd, a large; irate; raucous crowd. Loud hailers, banners; placards; in fact all the bits and pieces usually associated with a demonstration were in evidence, what made this one different though was the large number of children in attendance.

It was of course an education issue which has become synonymous with trouble for the SNP / Lib. Dems. in Renfrewshire. The fact that they have cut some £12 Million from the schools budget; devastated teacher numbers; got rid of classroom assistants; cut music tuition; left some teachers with no choice but to go into their own pockets to buy teaching materials; destroyed pupil and staff morale; reduced Renfrewshire to the worst pupil teacher ratios in Scottish secondary schools and second worst in primaries helps to explain that trouble and the very palpable anger of these protesters.

They were a good natured if angry crowd and the catalyst for this event was the SNP’s latest callous assault on some of our most defenceless citizens, children, a pattern emerges here as they have subjected the vulnerable elderly to uncaring attacks by taking away their wardens and now quite incredibly even for the SNP cancelled their annual trip ‘doon the water’ don’t be young and don’t get old under the SNP. This most recent assault on education takes the form of a cutback in school transport, under Labour; children who lived more than 2 miles from the school were given a bus pass now under this SNP gang it will be 3 miles, as many as 5/600 kids will now have walk to school some of them as far as 2.99 miles in all kinds of weather and over busy roads, the SNP say they have identified safe walking routes to school the parents and kids say that is absolute nonsense.

The protestors packed the council chamber and despite this not being an agenda item every Labour councillor who spoke managed to raise the bus issue to loud cheering from the packed gallery; this was a bad; bad day for the SNP/Lib. Dem. administration; they were vilified and rightly so, and believe me this aint over yet. The SNP councillors took a vow of silence claiming that it was not an agenda item even education convener Cllr. Cameron SNP said nothing and wrapped herself in the same craven defence. There is however no mess that the SNP can find itself in which can’t be made worse by the intervention of their hapless leader Derek Mackay; he of the feet full of bullet holes. During a debate on the Renfrew Ferry he all of a sudden blundered into the school bus issue much to the surprise and bafflement of his silent colleagues, Provost Lawson who chaired the meeting had spent a lot of time yelling at Labour councillors “school buses are not on the agenda it's out of order” she looked at her leader with an expression which I imagine she hasn’t worn since her children were very young, what can you say? he’s a born leader right?

What are the parents and children heated about? what might happen to worry them? Well; let’s see; if next January/February’s weather is anything like this year the pupils might not be in a fit state to learn anything by the time they reach school; will they be obliged to sit through lessons freezing and drenched to the skin; could that cause health problems? Is it possible that in such conditions truancy rates might rise; will that affect their advancement; here’s one for the Catholic Church; as the overwhelming number of children excluded will be Catholics will pupil numbers drop in Catholic Schools?

Last but certainly not least; God forbid but; what if one these debarred children who are forced to walk meets with an accident while going to school? not impossible in dark wintry mornings; ‘accidents happen’ I hear the SNP say which is of course true but; how are they going to feel, how is the child going to feel, the parents going to feel if it turns out that under a Labour administration the injured child would have been safe on a school bus. An appalling scenario but; one which on its own would persuade me to discard this truly heartless and reckless decision, it’s time for the SNP to think again and do the decent thing for once.

28 comments:

Anonymous said...

The Catholic card, eh Terry? oh how the lowly have sunk. Children are children and buses are buses etc etc.

Terry have you or previous Labour administrations never taken the decision to cut school buses? if so when?

cynicalHighlander said...

This beggars belief!

Scottish budget cut from Labours mismanagement of UK economy whilst engaging in illegal wars killing women and children to satisfy Labour leaders self indulgence.

I used to walk miles to and from school but now in Scotland with Labour closing down schools, through lack of basic maintenance and cetralising education for decades it is now the fault of the current administration.

I would question your suitability to be an elected public servant let alone a member of the human race.

Patricia said...

Did you get in amongst the crowd and unfurl a Hamas banner?

Or do you not want your constituents to know you support an organisation that condones antisemitism, holocaust denial, oppresses women and abuses the human rights of Palestinians?

Nah thought not. You're not a man to let your principles get in the way of your Sky package* are you?

*http://efrafandays.wordpress.com/2010/02/22/refusing-to-condemn-the-vandalism-of-a-synagogue/

ModernityBlog said...

[Off topic, but I left this comment for you on another blog, http://efrafandays.wordpress.com/2010/02/22/refusing-to-condemn-the-vandalism-of-a-synagogue/#comments]

[I wanted to make sure you saw it.]

Councillor Kelly,

I assume that is really you?

If that’s the case and you feel that you’ve been hard done by, and you are genuinely against antisemitism then there is a simple solution.

Please just write a small post on your blog commenting on antisemitic attacks in Scotland, physical attacks on Jews and the recent CST figures on racial attacks on Jews in Britain.(1)

Please do that and then there would be no possibility of anyone misinterpreting your views.

A simple post on your blog dealing with racial attacks on Jews in Scotland, that would be more than sufficient.

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1: see http://www.thecst.org.uk/index.cfm?content=7&Menu=7

Anonymous said...

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Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 25/02/10

You are a bit late with that are you not, it is a fact that the Catholic schools will suffer the most and it is not lost on them, it wasn’t me who made that up.

I don’t recall us cutting school buses; I do remember us extending school bus passes from 2 miles to 3 though which the SNP have just cruelly reversed.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(cynicalHighlander) 25/02/10
That’s much better another gubbing for the pathetic highlanders no one gets accused today; cowardice in the hielans wins again. Labour extended the bus passes from 2 to 3 miles and the SNP have reversed that back to 2 a cruel and reckless decision they are shameful.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(ModernityBlog) 25/02/10

I’m sorry if you are genuine but I am not prepared to respond to such questions, they are bogus and designed to shift the argument away from Israel and brand me as anti Semitic and I am not going to let him away with it.

My views have been made clear on my blog and I will continue to attack Israel; support Palestine and refute the smears and lies of these Zionist hooligans; I regard such questions as insulting.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Patricia) 25/02/10
As far as my constituents are concerned I am an open book; unlike you Zionist cowards I don’t hide; you lot have an argument so strong and so just that you can’t even show your faces and identify yourselves.

This argument is about the lies and smears that you and the people on that site spread about me because I am anti Israel; Hamas has nothing to do with it; you have only one response to criticism you yell “anti Semite” and that is an insult not only to me but to millions of Jews the world over.

I leave in your advert for the lying Zionist blog because I want more people to read it.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 10:44

There is the unmistakeable hint of raw undisciplined talent about this; reminiscent of the young Matt McGinn or Bob Dylan.

A Protest song for our times and so local and topical; hard hitting, supporting the goodies (kids and parents) and skewering the baddies the wicked uncaring reckless SNP.

I feel humble at getting a mention, my congratulations to the wordsmith, the language of Shakespeare and Milton lives on.

Anonymous said...

What about the bus to St John Bosco in Erskine???

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Approx. 10 years ago one single bus was removed which took children from Linburn to St. John Bosco which was found to be less than one mile and the route was found to be safe for walking.

Children are now to walk 3 miles on a route which the parents say is not safe; but if you think this justifies the SNP decision then good for you but it seems rather like clutching at straws.

Allan said...

Right, and of course the fact that the finances of Renfrewshire Council were in a parleous state when the mighty defenders of honourable working people New labour left Cotton Street has nothing to do with the SNP's cloth-cutting excersise, especially with Education budgets. And guess which department was limbered with the second mortgage that is PPP in 2003 by New Labour. Thats right the Education department.

By the way, i think that rather than cutting bus routes, there are other targets that should be cut, wages for the heads of service, the funding for the wardens, etc etc...

Anonymous said...

safe route to St John Bosco, through a wooded area not even a proper footpath, yes very safe!!!!!!

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 26/02/10
A journey of less than a mile through a wooded footpath; sounds idyllic.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

That’s 3 years of cloth cutting by the SNP; when does it become the responsibility of the present administration? a very weak argument indeed.

Who gave the senior council officers the massive wage rises? let me think now; oh! I remember, it was the SNP.

Anonymous said...

"when does it become the responsibility of the present administration?"

Oh I would say the same time Labour blaming Thatcher, like never.

Terry I like the way you "Don't recall" things such as cutting buses off kiddies going to school, shutting libraries and bulldozing community centres. I really fear for your health as booze has a tendency to make one more addled than usual and forgetful.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 15:17

I take it you agree then that we can all blame Thatcher?
Which means of course we can all blame those who brought her to power the SNP; this is what’s known in boxing parlance as “leading with your chin”

Anonymity is sometimes best isn’t it.

Allan said...

"I take it you agree then that we can all blame Thatcher?
Which means of course we can all blame those who brought her to power the SNP"

Didn't Thach win something called a General Election before comeing to power.

As for your tirade about the current SNP administration, may I refer you to the second paragraph of my original comment.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Allan) 18:07
The Tories won an election which was caused by the treachery of the SNP who joined them in bringing the Labour Govt. down. in the same way as they joined in coalition with the Tories in Renfrewshire council approx 30 years ago and in the same way as they join with the Tories today in Holyrood to get their legislation through.

The message is clear vote SNP and get the Tories there is no difference between them “ we Scots didn’t mind Thatcher’s economic policies very much” ( Alex ‘the spiv’ Salmond) remember? The people of Scotland will remember.

If you care to contact the leader of the SNP Derek Mackay he will tell you that I have never hidden the fact that Labour have closed things I have said as much at public council meetings. Did you know we opened 10 new schools and put in place the project to upgrade the rest in the last Labour administration? The SNP are traitors to the Scottish people.

Anonymous said...

So you 'recall' things 30 years ago but not things less than ten? there's a medical condition for that associated with a serial imbiber.

Why don't you list all the school buses you and Labour voted to cut off kiddies, schools shut, libraries closed and tell us why you thought they needed axing?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 12:35

I’m too busy listing all the SNP crimes; I see you don’t comment on the SNP Tory love affair; why is that?

2 points now between Labour and your Tory friends and the SNP going into meltdown would you like to comment on that? Will you and the other tartan Tories be voting for the SNP or the “Bullington Club” Do you ever get weary tugging you forelock like a nice obedient Scottish servant who knows her/his place?

Allan said...

"The Tories won an election which was caused by the treachery of the SNP" - actually it was caused by a Labour group who shamefuly DID NOT WANT to give Scotland devolution. It was a Scotish Labour MP, the member for London Islington George Cunningham, who inserted the 40% rule. Yes the Conservitives did hi-jack the SNP's motion of no confidence, but the treachery cannot be in any way be confined to the SNP benches.

"The message is clear vote SNP and get the Tories there is no difference between them" - So why has the successor party to Labour, New Labour continued to use Thatcherite ecconomic policy? Low Taxation for the high earners in our country, Lasiz Faire regulation's, continued privatisation of key services and the ramping up of Norman Lamont's policy of PFI/PPP to rebuild Hospitals and Schools. This last point is pertinent to Renfrewshire Council as the re-building of our schools has saddled Renfrewshire Council with huge debts, through the use of PFI/PPP. It is this debt which has caused the cuts, not the bad wrong-doers in the SNP.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Allan) 17:01

You are wasting your time trying to rewrite history, the SNP brought down the Labour Govt. by joining the Tories; they (The SNP) are directly responsible for the Thatcher years and we will remember that. We will remember their coalition with the Tories in Renfrewshire; we will remember their unofficial pact with the Tories in Holyrood which can be confirmed by checking the voting records, we will remember the SNPs attitude to the Thatcher economic carnage “ we didn’t mind” said (Alex ‘the spiv’ Salmond)

“Facts are chiels that winna ding” as the third rate old Ayrshire plagiarist said and these my wee sleekit timourous laddie are facts and there are more all nicely stored up waiting to be used.

Anonymous said...

Councillor,

I work for Renfrewshire Council (sorry no names)

The staff moral is at an all time low, we hear that the Administration has now money, is making big cut backs, offering Senior staff early retirement packages, merging Dept's and the list goes on.

Why is it then, early where I look I see Consultants, Consultants for this, Consultants for that and I could go on. Theses outside Consultants cost we the tax payers, large amounts of money, why has the Labour Party no raised this issue with the workers and the public, not forgetting the press.

Finally what about the IT. Dept being run down with the view of out sourcing.


As I stated no name, I don't wish to be sacked by the Administration.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Cllr Terry Kelly said...
(Anonymous) 10:51

The picture you paint is indeed an alarming one; I know plenty of people who work for the council who echo what you have said.

IMO what is happening is the council is not being led by politicians is it being influenced by officers and the politicians in power i.e. the SNP/Lib. Dem. coalition have neither the experience nor the gumption to oppose them.

The perfect example of this was the pay rises of 17% awarded to senior officers; some of whom got a rise of £11,500 a year; more than some council workers get for a year’s pay. I said at the time and I say it again the senior officers would not have dared to approach a Labour administration with such a claim; the SNP however rolled over and have been doing so since they came to power.
Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:28:00 PM

joseph said...

I know someone who works for Renfrewshire Council and they don't know whats bloody hit them!! They got away with murder under labour, now they are questioned all the time!!They hope Labour get back in so they can get a rest!!

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(joseph) 10/03/10
You sound like a typical right wing anti union nationalist; probably someone who thinks that ‘manual labour; is a Spaniard.