Friday, October 23, 2015


Nicola Sturgeon is again trotting out demands about Trident and lying to people on an industrial scale. It could be 7 or 8 years before another referendum if there is ever going to be one and then there is no guarantee that Scotland would vote for separation, and then they would have who knows how long to set it up if they gained that separation.To get rid of Trident Scotland would first have to be independent and the SNP are in retreat from even discussing independence, This makes their sabre rattling about Trident rather futile does it not. They (the snp) do however definitely need a distraction. They are also guilty of over estimating Scottish support for getting rid of Trident. They also refuse to mention that this issue is about ‘means to an end’, I do not know a single person who does not want to get rid of Nuclear Weapons throughout the whole world, including Scotland, and that makes their whole argument a tissue of lies. The biggest lie of all which is perpetrated by the snp and their supporters is ‘if you don’t vote to get rid of Trident then you are in favour of nuclear weapons’ this is a deliberate deception. Those who say it will make us safer if we get rid of Trident are either misinformed or deceitful, to accept their analysis you would have to believe that nuclear weapons based in England, N.I. or Wales would not present any danger to Scotland and that is clearly untenable. These weapons could be relocated close to Scotland’s large population centres by placing them on the N.I. coast or near the English border Trident has been flogged to death as an excuse for voting for separation, it is a massive lie and it’s about time the SNP started telling the truth about it.   

Conference time - During and after the Labour conference people like Corbyn, McConnell and John Prescott were hounded by the press and TV, Neil V Prescott is a must see for lessons on how to take the wind out of the sails of an arrogant interviewer, the ebullient  Prescott was “floating like a butterfly and stinging like a bee” hilarious stuff.

Sporting Scotland? - It is noticeable that Nicola Sturgeon has been dragged kicking and screaming in to castigating the SNP cybernats for their attacks on Scottish rugby supporters mainly JK Rowling and Muriel Gray after Scotland’s defeat at the hands of Australia. These people are thugs and it is ironic that no one did more to create these vile characters than Salmond, ably supported by the increasingly distressed Sturgeon. This latest outburst of nationalist poison was caused by a game of rugby! a game played in Scotland by those who are not good enough to play football, the paucity of rugby pitches emphasises that the coverage this sport gets is out of all proportion to it’s popularity. The reaction of these ‘tartanshirt clowns’ suggests that if there was a World Cup for girning and whining Scotland would win it. It would appear that any person who attains a high level in sport, science, entertainment or discovery is according to these morons not entitled to call themselves Scottish if they disagree with the SNP!       

These people live in a delusional tartan bubble where Sean Connery is a far better actor than Laurence Olivier, Robert Burns is superior to Shakespeare and Bobby Charlton couldn’t lace Jim Baxter’s boots. “Nationalism is a disease, it’s the measles of the planet Earth” said Albert Einstein. SNP apologists plead that their kind of nationalism is not like that, they claim to be ‘civic’ nationalist not ‘ethnic’ nationalist when all the evidence clearly shows that they are indeed ethnic nationalists of the worst kind. It was Billy Connolly who said “when the best thing you have going for you is where you come from, you are in deep s**t” I can’t put it any better than that. Just over four and a half years of this to go before the next general election, the rest of the world might just have died laughing at us before then.      


Robert said...

I'm confused here councillor, I thought you were a supporter of Mr Corbyn and he is firmly in the unilaterlist camp. I'm with him on this one, where are you? Maybees aye, maybees naw?

Running Man said...

So says the British nationalist.

You'll change your tune on Trident when you are told to do so by Corbyn and you'll do it without a blush......

Running Man said...

Estimated cost now up at 167Bn.....Yet you seem OK to spend this

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

You could buy a lot of saltires and change a lot of place names and road signs to Gaelic with that amount.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

I will not change my tune and I will say what I like. Not something you are familiar with eh? spineless describes the snp members.

Ian McGovern said...

"spineless describes the snp members."

Every single last one? The law of averages suggests you are a liar or deluded.

I dont like Labour but i do know there are some in there who are genuine good people, there are also some who have no personal beliefs and are willing to spout a (tory like) party line without question if only to preserve their own lot. (ahem)

Ian McGovern said...


"i will not change my tune".... is correct, you are far too narrow minded for that.

"I will say what i like".... and you like to say whatever your party tells you to say.

Convenient for a party puppet.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Robert said...Sunday, October 25, 2015 9:01:00 p.m.

I supported Mr. Corbyn, campaigned for him and donated to his fighting fund.He is opposed to nuclear weapons and so am I, what is your confusion?. Perhaps you are confused at members of the same party having debates with each other, that is no surprise when it comes to the snp.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Ian McGovern said...Monday, October 26, 2015 4:50:00 p.m

The only time they grow a spine is when they have formed a mob. So spineless are they that have just meekly accepted their 'raison detre' independence being taken off the menu, it didn't take long for things to start falling apart did it.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Ian McGovern said...Monday, October 26, 2015 4:03:00 p.m

You are beyond parody, a coward and a fool, you are not allowed to show dissent or argue with the party line on pain of expulsion. The snp have only got one policy or only had one policy, independence, until sturgeon tore it up and you all bowed your heads and murmured 'yes boss.

Running Man said...

Yet somehow SNP members voted down the leadership proposals on land reform......and advocated for more at the conference powerless as well ? The facts say otherwise.....Lets see how long till Labour put up another leadership candidate.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Land reform? that's known as throwing the idiots some scraps. In their 85 years as a political party they have always been about one single issue, independence and it's been ratted on, and you are still there licking their boots.

Running Man said...

Clearly as a man comfy in his council supplied and discounted house Land reform is not high on your agenda.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Running Man said...Friday, October 30, 2015 7:34:00 a.m.

"Clearly as a man comfy in his council supplied and discounted house Land reform is not high on your agenda".

You have tried this lie before, this time I will call you out and see what you are made of. We both deposit a sum of money with a mutually agreed person, a lawyer perhaps, let's say £5,000 each, or more if you want. If you can prove what you are saying about me is true you keep the money, if I can prove you are lying I keep the money right?. Nice and simple right? we both like a bet if I remember properly, let's do it. If you turn this down you can consider this the last time you will be posted on my blog now are you as tough as you like to make out?.

Ian McGovern said...

"The snp have only got one policy or only had one policy, independence, until sturgeon tore it up and you all bowed your heads and murmured 'yes boss."

" In their 85 years as a political party they have always been about one single issue, independence and it's been ratted on, and you are still there licking their boots.2

For a man who parades the internet calling everyone else stupid, the fact you cannot see the Irony of "a socialist" who is still a card carrier for a Labour party who abandoned socialism nearly 20 years ago.

So... lets say the SNP have indeed dropped Independence, does that mean i also have a 20 year waiting period to decide that i dont like them anymore?

"Im a socialist".... you are deluded.

I would put it down to the purest form of stupidity but then again, being a kiddy on socialist with the Labour party has supplied you a lifestyle which you are now accustomed to.

For years you have stuck by your " Im a socialist" mantra and for the most part it has worked, you might be a public laughing stock but it has got you voted in and paid over the years, so why change it right?

Now, Scotland has turned, not just a protest vote, a turning of the tide to the SNP. Labour will not win another election up here, this in my opinion is to the SNP's detriment because they become like the Labour party, a monolith full of party people who will casually disregard their beliefs for a wage packet.

I will move on sooner rather than later, no, i wont be found standing their with my tatty flag spouting the same trodden lines of a tokenism politics.

The only person you are fooling is yourself.

Just as well you have been living in a semi state of retirement for so long, never heard you make a peep at Full Council meetings, should be an easy enough transition for you.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Ian McGovern said...Monday, November 30, 2015 9:32:00 a.m. I do not call everyone on the Internet stupid, I call some people on the internet stupid because some of them undoubtedly are stupid, you for example are not the sharpest tool in the shed are you? The Labour Party has never abandoned Socialism and is still a Socialist Party today, that’s why I’m in it and why it chose Jeremy Corbyn as it’s leader. The SNP have dropped independence and are now on the road to ruin as we can see with the almost daily snp blunders and scandals, it’s mainly stupid membership and it’s obviously unvetted candidates for election will continue to keep us all entertained for a while yet before they are washed away and Scotland is no longer subjected to the stench of nationalism.

The public laughing stock is the SNP, that's when the public are not cowering in fear from the 'tartanshirt' thugs who infest the streets at election time in their name. You are a particularly angry and abusive example of the common snp cybernat mob which we are all too familiar with and I think I know why you are so out of control and angry and you also know don't you? we both know where it is all heading.