Monday 09.00 am to the council for a full council meeting, the council now meets on a Monday to accommodate new MSP's Adam and Mackay SNP. A rather unreasonable display of hubris on behalf of the SNP who are prepared to disrupt council business and years of experience for no other reason than the convenience of two rather selfish and arrogant young men. Council officers and all concerned with full council meetings are furious but unable to express their anger, well done boys.
The meeting was quite quick as they now are because Labour are in opposition and don't believe in wasting time and tax payers money by deliberately stretching the meetings out as the SNP regularly did when in opposition. They cost the council residents tens of thousands of pounds over their years as opposition. They regularly swamped the meetings with spurious motions and amendments and meetings sometimes ran from 9.30 am to 4 & 5.00 pm. One motion called on the Council to spend money on an investigation to discover whether Elvis Pressley's ancestors came from Paisley that should give you a flavour of their attitude to spending your money.
The meeting threw up its usual examples of gross idiocy and arrogance from the SNP/Libdem coalition. Cllr. Nicolson who has a genius for digging himself in to ever bigger holes expressed anger at the last Labour Scottish administration at Holyrood for signing up to the "International Human Rights Act" and then made a complete fool of himself when called upon to defend his position. Under Councillor Nicolson's "independent" Scotland your human rights will be endangered, everyone makes mistakes but this guy elevates his blundering to an art level.
We hoped yet again to get through a meeting without a malevolent intervention from the wretched Cllr. Eileen McCartin Libdem, alas it wasn't to be. Labour submitted a motion condemning the politicisation of the Civil service in Holyrood by the SNP, this motion arose from a similar complaint in the Holyrood Parliament which was supported by everyone except the SNP. The salient point here is that all parties united to condemn the behaviour of the SNP, including the Libdems at Holyrood , our motion was defeated and the Libdems on Renfrewshire Council supported the SNP in the vote despite their own MSP's in Holyrood opposing the SNP. The SNP once again accused Labour of showing disrespect for Civil Servants and council officers while sitting in their midst was the high chief of disrespect none other than SNP Councillor Ian Nicolson who I think holds the record for the longest suspension by the Standards Commission for accusing council officers of nepotism he got a year, you couldn't make it up could you. What are we to make of this? there is no mystery here: the LIbdems do not believe in anything, they stand for nothing they are at all times; for sale to the highest bidder whether here in Renfrewshire or in the Westminster Parliament. The SNP are no better hence the corrupt farce which sees the Tories and \Libdems united at Westminster and opposed by the SNP while here in Renfrewshire we have the SNP and the Libdem in coalition. There is a perfectly simple explanation, here in Renfrewshire the Libdems are dominated by Cllr.McCartin Libdem and she holds the position of Convener of Social Work and gets to sit at the top table at functions and she is well paid. These things take the place of principles that is the kind of person she is.
We then seen Cllr. Mackay and the SNP try to steal the credit for the victory over the government over compensation for workers suffering from plural plaques caused by asbestos. A victory won by a great many people from all political parties and none. Cllr. Williams pointed out to Mackay and the meeting that during the last Labour Government the SNP either abstained or voted with the Tories on every piece of legislation which was designed to increase worker's rights, what a bunch of charlatans, in Holyrood today 16/11/11 the SNP won a vote to keep the Parliament open on the day of the upcoming National strike, SNP scabs how are ye?
The most bizarre farce of the day was supplied as is often the case by Cllr. Bruce McFee SNP when speaking against a Labour motion condemning people trafficking which the SNP/Libdems opposed and the Labour motion was lost. He did his best to assume gravitas (not easy for him) and gave us the benefit? Of his experience of foreign climes including China and Russia both wretched places said the intrepid SNP explorer where women are exploited terribly and forced in to prostitution. It never occurred to him that this kind of thing has been happening in every country on the planet including Scotland since time began not for nothing is prostitution referred to as "the oldest profession in the world" would you not expect someone from the SNP to know that? He is said to be leaving the council, how will we manage? No more self congratulatory posturing; no more endless senseless gibberish about how wonderful he is. Here is a little story about the real Bruce Mcfee, the bluster is born of cowardice and insecurity, at this meeting his little deception, his "arrangement" with Provost Lawson was once again spotted. What happens is that people raise their hands to speak and the Provost takes down their names but for some strange reason no matter what order the hands go up Cllr. McFee's name comes out last to speak, why? I hear you ask. Here's why; because of this little deception he is allowed to sit and take note of what every other speaker has said and then come back at them safe in the knowledge that he is getting the last word.
Disingenuous ? Yes, lily-livered ? Yes, untrustworthy? Yes, deceitful of course but, above all, the actions of a man who is too afraid to enter an argument on a level playing field he has to employ rat like cunning to gain an underhand advantage, in other words a Scottish Nationalist.
36 comments:
This is the oldest profession in Scotland.
By cynicalHighlander on FULL COUNCIL – SNP SCABS – LIBDEM HARLOTS – AND TH... on 16/11/11
This link provided by cynicalHighlander takes you to the right wing Scottish Daily Express, no surprise there then.
The SNP are the party of Brian Souter, Tom Farmer and of course Donald trump as well as the party who will be breaking workers picket lines on the day of the national strike, they are the party of Scottish Scabs. S N P = Scab National Party.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the person who raised the "people trafficking" motion for Labour the very person that is renowned for bullying and intimidating women.
Even your Leader had to reprimand him for his behaviour I understand.
I am sure the irony doesn't escape even you.
By Anonymous on FULL COUNCIL – SNP SCABS – LIBDEM HARLOTS – AND TH... at 15:55
“Correct me if I'm wrong”
You are wrong.
If you want to name this person and identify yourself I will print it and let you settle it between you. I know your kind, liar and coward or put another way a nationalist.
"“Correct me if I'm wrong”
You are wrong."
Mr or Mrs/Ms Anonymous.
You could have expected no other answer from Terry Kelly.
He is after all the man who stated that "all women are thick"
Sexist bullies stick together and Terry is sticking like glue.
Terry,
Labour Ecclestone - fag companies get exemption = donation
Labour - Richard Desmond - Porn £100,000k donation - trafficking women ? you join up the dots
just to raise your mental age up to a 5 year old.
S.N.P.- Scottish Nose Pickers
S.N.P. - Sex Not Politics
S.N.P - Scottish Nasty Party
S.N.P. .................(fill in)
yours doesn't have the same ring to it.
By Anonymous on FULL COUNCIL – SNP SCABS – LIBDEM HARLOTS – AND TH... at 16:32
I feel your pain the SNP are scabs and Scab Nationalist Party is accurate and true, live with it scab.
By Ronnie on FULL COUNCIL – SNP SCABS – LIBDEM HARLOTS – AND TH... at 16:24
Now you are scabbing on the workers, you have found your vocation a bosses nark and a scab and a proud nationalist.
Like the rest of the SNP mob you are a quivering pile of C**p Ronnie. Name names, identify yourself, crawl out from under your stone and we can take it from there.
I named you Terry!
My name is Ronnie and I live in Paisley.
Why do you need more?
Councillor Terry Kelly
"FULL COUNCIL – SNP SCABS – LIBDEM HARLOTS – AND THE COUNCILLOR WHO IS TOO BIG A FEARTY TO PLAY FAIR (MC FEE, SNP)"
you sir have a way with words no doubt i think perhaps one of my most favorite and true post header
Defending the donation, Mr Reid said yesterday: "We have acted with complete propriety, We have acted with integrity. We have been transparent. If you are asking if we are going to sit in moral judgment, in political judgment, on those who wish to contribute to the Labour party, then the answer to that is no."
no morals required all donations gratefully received no matter the source even porn. What was that about exploitation of women again?
By Anonymous on FULL COUNCIL – SNP SCABS – LIBDEM HARLOTS – AND TH... on 18/11/11
Why do you have to twist yourself in knots if you are happy to be propped up by homophobic bigots and wife beaters like Souter and Connery why don’t you just say so, what are you afraid of?
By Nikostratos on FULL COUNCIL – SNP SCABS – LIBDEM HARLOTS – AND TH... on 17/11/11
I thank you, it’s a gift I have; I was born with it but it only manifests itself when I’m dealing with evil like the heading you quote.
Terry,
Is it true that Labour took a £100,000 donation from the publisher of "Nude Readers Wives" and "Asian Babes".
Let me get this straight Terry.
Do you think that it is ok for Labour to accept donations from purveyors of Pornography?
I am not na SNP supporter either so don't bother with the Souter/Connery diversion. That is a question that I raise with the SNP.
I am asking you about the morals of the Labour Party.
A simple direct answer will be sufficient to understand where you stand on the exploitation of women.
Alec said...
The honest answer to that is I simply don’t know but if it were down to me to take money from such a source assuming the source is what this looks like then I would oppose taking that donation. I have to bow to your obviously superior knowledge of such productions so maybe you could tell me if we did and did we get charged with any misdemeanour for it?
If these books/magazines are what I think they are, and they are bad enough I would not find that as bad as taking anything from Souter or Connery, the former a homophobic bigot and the latter a misogynistic wife beater.
By Audrey on FULL COUNCIL – SNP SCABS – LIBDEM HARLOTS – AND TH... at 13:20
“Do you think that it is ok for Labour to accept donations from purveyors of Pornography?”
No. I find these magazines etc. demeaning to women but; money from Souter and Connery is much worse although all 3 are bad.
I find it worrying that you consider ‘Souter Connery’ a diversion.
“I am asking you about the morals of the Labour Party”
A political party is an inanimate object and as such does not have morals, members of that party have morals and I am absolutely convinced that an overwhelming majority of those members like me; would reject such a donation.
As far as my attitude to the exploitation of women is concerned, I won’t dignify that with a comment.
The facts as reported and defended to the hilt by Tony Balir
"THE Labour Party successfully solicited a donation of £100,000 from a publisher of top-shelf pornography in return for promising to advertise in his newspapers.
The donation by the publishing company Northern & Shell, whose chairman is Richard Desmond, will plunge the party into another highly damaging row over funding.
Labour MPs last night expressed anger that Labour had taken money from the company, which owns pornographic magazines - including Nude Readers' Wives, and Asian Babes - and the adult television station Fantasy Channel, as well as Express Newspapers.
The disclosure prompted calls from David Davis, the Conservative Party chairman, for an urgent inquiry into Mr Desmond's purchase in November 2000 of the Express Newspaper Group, a takeover which was not referred to the Competition Commission.
Labour also came under fire for slipping the donation into its accounts just days before new rules on publicly declaring political gifts came into force.
There was further concern at the terms of the donation, which was conditional on Labour advertising in Mr Desmond's newspapers, the Daily and Sunday Express. A spokesman for Northern & Shell confirmed that it had offered free advertising to the Labour Party in the run-up to the general election last year."
"A political party is an inanimate object and as such does not have morals, members of that party have morals and I am absolutely convinced that an overwhelming majority of those members like me; would reject such a donation"
Really? A rock is an inanimate object Terry, buy a book. a party can have morals expressed through it's policies and actions as can a company for it is a 'legal entity' Question? did Labour keep the porno money? is Asian Babes still subsidising the good fight?
By Anonymous on FULL COUNCIL – SNP SCABS – LIBDEM HARLOTS – AND TH... at 19:02
I can find nothing here that I have not already addressed. Do you want to explain what you are trying to say.
By Anonymous on FULL COUNCIL – SNP SCABS – LIBDEM HARLOTS – AND TH... at 19:12
The Labour Party and labour Party members are 2 different things; the Labour Party like any other organisation is simply the organising machinery. If I had been asked whether I supported taking such a donation I would have said no but I wasn’t asked in fact no Labour Party members were asked. Just like when Alex (the spiv) Salmond sold the jerseys to Donald Trump, no SNP members were asked if they agreed but I know SNP people who were opposed to it and they didn’t get asked.
The difference between us and them was that Labour Party members were furious about it and said so the SNP members said nothing.
Opposition really smarts, doesn't it, Terry?
Better get used to it, though. Unless your party manages to get a sniff of power again in Scotland by latching onto the need for constitutional change the SNP have highlighted. Maybe even a bitter British unionist like you (internationalist? Don't make me laugh) will be out campaigning for devo max. Bet that'll hurt.
By Anonymous on FULL COUNCIL – SNP SCABS – LIBDEM HARLOTS – AND TH... on 20/11/11
I will be campaigning for the Labour Party as I always do. You and the rest of your reactionary nationalist mob will be campaigning for the Queen, English troops on Scottish soil and the continuing use of English money with the English monarch’s face on it, as long as it’s not a catholic face.
You really haven’t come that far since your first leader got banged up in jail for campaigning on a do not oppose Hitler crusade, your slogan was “Scotland free and neutral” during the second world war, look it up, you are a bunch of deviants.
Hi Terry, I'm not a reactionary nationalist: I'm a liberal, republican, lapsed catholic nationalist from a working class background. Which in your book probably makes me some kind of turncoat.
What's a deviant? Someone who doesn't agree with you? You're starting to sound like a bit of a fascist, aren't you?
the Irish were nuetral ergo the Irish were a bunch of deviants is that the case?
Labour were in power 13 years. did they not have much time to change the law on succession? thats right Bomber Blair was busy sponging in Tuscan villas yachts in the med owned by greasy millionaires such as Mittel. how much were ther passports again to Labour?
By Anonymous on FULL COUNCIL – SNP SCABS – LIBDEM HARLOTS – AND TH... at 08:11
The Irish were “The Irish Republic” and they paid for that with their blood unlike the Scots. Who talk a good fight in the pub.
“greasy millionaires”
The BNP language is never far away with you lot is it? Yes you are a bunch of deviants and you were founded by the friends of Hitler the SNP.
By Anonymous on FULL COUNCIL – SNP SCABS – LIBDEM HARLOTS – AND TH... on 21/11/11
“Which in your book probably makes me some kind of turncoat?”
Not at all, in my book it simply makes you a liar.
I'm not a liar, Terry. Why would I lie about my background, my politics or my religion?
With no evidence-nothing but your own prejudices-to go on, you believe that every SNP voter is a middle class royalist and a reactionary. If you truly understood the meaning of the latter, you'd perhaps be a bit more careful about using it: after all, people in glass houses, etc.
By Anonymous on FULL COUNCIL – SNP SCABS – LIBDEM HARLOTS – AND TH... at 18:53
You are a liar and not a very bright one either – you give me your background which mirrors my own in a way and it then follows that you must be criticizing me for honest reasons, it’s a very old trick and only idiots think it’s a clever tactic.
You need to try harder and stop judging me by your own inadequate standards.
tsk tsk Terry your bitterness oozes forth.
i can feel the thud of those lumpen fingers with every word spat at us as you try to stab us through your keyboard.
not long now until the twilight of your emminent political career comes a beckoning. your mantle will heave under all the achievements and accolades throughout your political career. the great policies out to council and put into action, the multitudes who say your name at bed time prayers in thanks for your help.
Terry your facitude will be remembered and diefied.
and if you beleieve any of that you really are delusional.
So let me get this straight. You think I'm lying because I want to give the impression that I've something in common with you? Your logic is so blockheaded that it's difficult to get a grip, but I'll try...
You believe that all SNP supporters are anti-catholic royalists-therefore it follows that as an SNP voter I cannot be a liberal republican from a working class catholic background. Am I right so far?
So the 900,000 or so people who gave the SNP their constituency votes in this year's Holyrood elections are all anti-catholic bigots? Do you believe that?
You really are a prize, councillor Kelly. A bitter reactionary and a bigot-in the truest senses of the words, of both those nouns. You're comfortable with describing as liars and cowards almost a million of your countrymen and women-because they disagree with you on Scotland's constitutional future. Fascism thrives on people like you, Cllr Kelly.
By Anonymous on FULL COUNCIL – SNP SCABS – LIBDEM HARLOTS – AND TH... on 22/11/11
“So let me get this straight. You think I'm lying because I want to give the impression that I've something in common with you?”
Correct –
the rest of this is guess what? Lies.
By Anonymous on FULL COUNCIL – SNP SCABS – LIBDEM HARLOTS – AND TH... on 22/11/11
I wish I could write like what you can.
Your rants are becoming increasingly bizarre, Terry. Why would I want to give anyone a false impression that I have anything in common with you?
I think that you genuinely find it impossible to believe that anyone who shares one or two things with you-a catholic background, a belief in republicanism-doesn't agree with you on everything. You'd probably call that conviction: a psychiatrist would call it grandiose, but I prefer to call it moronic.
By Anonymous on FULL COUNCIL – SNP SCABS – LIBDEM HARLOTS – AND TH... on 23/11/11
It took me about 30 secs. to suss you out now you can’t let it go because your stupidity and arrogance let you down so badly.
You’ll just have to suck it up and put it down to experience and remember not to assume that your woeful standards apply to everyone.
I know, Terry. I should let it go. But there's something compelling about the depths of your malice and stupidity.
Anyway, that's all for now. But I'll probably drop in at some time over the next few weeks to point out what a silly wee man you are. Again.
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