Sunday, October 11, 2009

"I'M GOING TO CHANGE; FROM NOW ON THERE WILL BE NO MORE MR. F*****G NICE GUY". (SIR ALEX FERGUSON)

Fellow Labour man (good) and football manager (bad) Fergie; is a cheat and a bully. Once again Sir Alex Ferguson makes the news for the wrong reasons. Another familiar rant against a referee who had the misfortune to be officiating at Old Trafford on a United bad day; unable to fix on any refereeing mistakes or bad decisions he decided that the referee in question was not fit enough to referee the game; he went on to draw unfavorable comparisons between English referees in general and their European counterparts who were said he “as fit as butchers dogs” except of course the ones who referee United games in Europe who are just dogs; (OK I made the European dogs bit up)

I first became aware of Ferguson as a player approx. 40 years ago and he has not changed one bit; in addition to present day bully and cheat you can add thug when he was a player; I would be very surprised if the bullying; cheating and thuggery were not in evidence when he turned out for his primary school team.

What most English football people; teams players fans commentators etc. will not know is that he has serious “previous” his behavior as a player was nasty and vicious; his ability was limited and this brought out his frustration. On one occasion in a Scottish Cup Final at a packed Hampden where his opponents Celtic were giving his side a drubbing he deliberately head butted Celtic’s Bobby Murdoch and rather like today he got away with it; the list of players who felt the force of his elbow in their faces is a long one.

As manager he took St. Mirren from relative obscurity to the top division where almost every game they played was littered with controversy and confrontations with referees; so wound up did he have the fans that they developed a taste for trouble and nastiness which they have never managed to shake off; “of all the racist fans I have ever come across in my career the fans of an obscure Scottish team called St. Mirren were the worst” (Ruud Gullit). The racism has been diluted greatly but by jings they are still angry about something. St. Mirren BTW were a good team then under Ferguson but trouble with a capital T. The caravan then pitched up in Aberdeen where something similar happened he produced a team which broke the dominance of the old firm and part of the price to be paid was that every fan in Scotland hated them; not just old firm fans as they would have you believe but everyone.

Fergie’s version of the ‘rota system’ at St.Mirren and Aberdeen which can be seen today at Man. U is for players to take it in turn kicking the most dangerous opponent and haranguing the referee; he is a good student he learned this from the odious Don Revie and Leeds. “someone who seeks to gain an unfair advantage is a cheat” that is the most common definition and it could have been coined for Fergie; that’s what all the abuse of referees is about; to intimidate them; storming down the tunnel at half time to wait for and abuse the ref. Is one of his favourites (no cameras) to catch it. People like Ferguson despite their success are bad for the game they will do anything to gain an edge including cheating; they are terrible examples to youngsters.

Manchester United in the past were everybody’s second favourite team this was because of their style and glamour; Munich also helped the legend as did their great manager Matt Busby who would be appalled at how the manager of his beloved United behaves; Busby would rather lose than carry on like Ferguson. From being loved and respected by everyone to being hated by everyone is what has happened under Ferguson; all the trophies and triumphs are not worth this; the sooner he goes the better for United and football, Manchester United are a great club and in time people will come to see that again; by then Ferguson will be remembered with embarrassment and shame by those who love the Beautiful Game.

58 comments:

Anonymous said...

Weirdo.

Anonymous said...

Dear Terry,

Please explain this particular sentence.

"The racism has been diluted greatly but by jings they are still angry about something."

If you are in some way suggesting the club currently condones or actively encourages racism then I believe your position as a councillor, Labour or otherwise, may be brought into some serious doubt.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 12:16
Dear anonymous.

Please explain this particular sentence.

“If you are in some way suggesting the club currently condones or actively encourages racism”

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Why?

Anonymous said...

Mr Kelly,

I find the tactic of answering a question with another question not only lacking in grammatical correctness but the sign of someone trying to avoid answering the initial query.

As I asked in the first place, please provide an explanation for this line:

"The racism has been diluted greatly but by jings they are still angry about something."

Are you in some way suggesting St.Mirren are guilty of allowing racism albeit diluted?

It's a straight forward comment and one I would expect you to be able to answer.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 12:49
“It's a straight forward comment”

As I thought a liar as well as being incompetent; if it was a straight forward comment you would have no bother explaining it would you.

Start by showing me where I have made the tiniest suggestion of any kind that St. Mirren are guilty of allowing racism, diluted or otherwise.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps you could expand on your claim that St Mirren supporters

"developed a taste for trouble and nastiness which they have never managed to shake off"

and that

"The racism has been diluted greatly but by jings they are still angry about something"

Anonymous said...

Mr Kelly,

I really don't know why you are being so combative about this issue.

I merely asked you to explain why you feel there is a diluted racism at St.Mirren as you blog quite clearly states:

"The racism has been diluted greatly but by jings they are still angry about something."

Are you trying to play a game here, as trust me that is not my intention, I merely wish you to explain why you think that racism has been diluted but not eradicated.

I have no issue regarding the rest of the piece.

Mark L said...

It would appear that the Renfrewshire Labour Group are now turning very anti St Mirren.

Up in the Ralston/Oldhall area where my uncle lives, It seems that Labour's Jim Sharkey (your buddy according to recent posts) is going round the residents, raising bad feeling against the new St Mirren training ground in Ralston.

He even personally handed in a petition to the council objecting to the facility on behalf of the residents.

I have it direct from the horses mouth that he has been bad mouthing St Mirren and the new council saying that it was all their fault that St Mirren have ended up there.

The new traing facility that St Mirren have built is first class and to have Labour wanting us put out is making my blood boil, especially when they were happy to take all the publicity and credit when we were originally going to go to the other p[aying fields in Ralston. Of course that was Labour's idea at the time. It all stinks of sour groups to me.

I would urge every tru Saints fan to steer their vote well away from Labour at the next election.

Certainly my uncle and I will be voting elsewhere.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Mark L) 14:32
“Jim Sharkey is going round the residents, raising bad feeling against the new St Mirren training ground”

A lie, the residents raised the bad feelings and took them to their local councillor who is of course Jim Sharkey.

“The new training facility that St Mirren have built is first class and to have Labour wanting us put out is making my blood boil”

Another lie no one wants St. Mirren put out they want the problems solved which St. Mirren are sympathetic to and have agreed to deal with.

“Certainly my uncle and I will be voting elsewhere”

I’m sure that Labour can remind the Saints fans that it was Labour who saved the club by rejecting the advice of planning officers who did not want to permit the sale of Love St.

I will also remind them that the Labour Councillor who moved the motion at council was me! The team manager Gus McPherson; the Chairman Mr. Gilmour and his fellow directors as well as the fans from all around the world thanked me personally; you and your uncle should be fans of me and Labour, you lot are not much good at this are you?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 14:23
Since you couch your questions without any accusations I will answer you.

Under Ferguson St.Mirren went from being a rather sleepy football backwater to a formidable team with supporters who were wound up remorselessly by him; he deliberately encouraged their rage and fed on it and it still exists to this day. I have sat in the Family Enclosure at St. Mirren and witnessed appalling behaviour and language in the presence of women and children; every bit as bad as the sectarian bile which accompanies the old firm.

Racism exists in football fans everywhere in St. Mirren’s case it is clearly not as bad as that experienced by the great Ruud Hulitt but don’t try and kid yourself that it doesn’t exist; not so long ago there were two fans thrown out for racist abuse and McGeady of Celtic was given both barrels by a St. Mirren fan who shouted racist and sectarian abuse at him, this was after a game where he had been subjected to this all day by St. Mirren fans. St. Mirren like all other teams are trying to stamp it out and that is a good thing.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 14:32
“I merely asked you to explain why you feel there is a diluted racism at St.Mirren as you blog quite clearly states”

No you didn’t; this is lies. You stated that I was accusing St. Mirren of allowing diluted racism which is also a lie.

“Are you trying to play a game here”

Why don’t you try again without the lies; you are nowhere near clever enough for this.

Anonymous said...

I have to say your attempts to belittle and deflect away from the initial request for explanation is somewhat indicative of Labour in Scotland and one of the primary reasons you are no longer in power.

The "nowhere near clever" is laughable, as you would prefer to insult the very people who voted for you rather than give a straight answer.

Do you seriously think people will re-elect you when you are so insulting to them? It defies belief, really it does.

All you've done is taken a simple request for clarification and blown it up out of all proportion making you look somewhat questionable in terms of stability.

However you have at least been honest enough to allow my comments to be published on the blog which is to your credit

Anonymous said...

"..not so long ago there were two fans thrown out for racist abuse and McGeady of Celtic was given both barrels by a St. Mirren fan who shouted racist and sectarian abuse at him, this was after a game where he had been subjected to this all day by St. Mirren fans."

Deary me, this is quite some revisionism and ranks highly in the Catholic paranoia scale.

If there was sectarian abuse inside the stadium then why were there no arrests? Are you suggesting the police were negligent in their duties. Secondly the two lads who shouted abuse at McGeady later on were OUTSIDE the stadium. Do you know what they said? I would be interested to know if you do as you seem keen to highlight it.

btw, would you care to answer the comments of the Celtic fans singing IRA songs in the recent game at St.Mirren Park? These were clearly heard over the microphones of the live broadcast but the only comment was made by Criag Burley who complained that St.Mirren fans only turned up to boo the opposition when in fact they were booing the opposition's rank disregard for the law.

Mark L. said...

So why did Jim Sharkey personally hand in a residents petition against St Mirren to the council.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Anonymous said...






Monday, October 12, 2009 4:15:00 PM

"nowhere near clever"
The fact that you thought that you had found something here to damage me rather suggests that my above remark was spot on.

"Do you seriously think people will re-elect you"

I have been elected 3 times partly because I can spot people like you a mile away and so can the voters who read this blog.

"However you have at least been honest enough to allow my comments to be published"

I'm always honest and I honestly don't believe you.

Audrey said...

Its now becoming common knowledge that Mr Sharkey wants us out of Allanton Playing Fields.

I have a friend at the council who has told me that he has specifically asked the question to council officers over the last 2 weeeks "who made the decision for St Mirren to set up in Allanton playing fields".

If this is a man who is bhind St Mirren, please explain to me how?.

It seems that he is hell bent on causing as much pain to the club as he possibly can!

I too will no longer give my vote to the Labour switcheroos

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Cllr Terry Kelly said...
(Anonymous) 17:56

“If there was sectarian abuse inside the stadium then why were there no arrests”

Why were fans not arrested for singing sectarian/racist crimes ? Because you can’t lock up that many fans Celtic or St. Mirren are you that silly? You seem keen to play the sectarian card yourself; rather proves my point.

“Secondly the two lads who shouted abuse at McGeady later on were OUTSIDE the stadium”

The report I read said and I repeated it; a St.Mirren fan! yet you seem to know that it was two fans and you are also wrong about this as well; they were actually outside the stand but still inside the stadium; so it did happen then? apparently it’s on U Tube.

I have already stated that the language and behaviour which I witnessed in the St. Mirren family enclosure in the presence of women and children was as bad as the sectarian bile which clings to the old firm.

“in fact they were booing the opposition's rank disregard for the law”

If you are going to argue at least try a little intellectual rigour; they were hurling abuse and shouting vile chants at Burley which could be heard clearly on the TV.
Monday, October 12, 2009 6:22:00 PM

IAIN said...

3 TIMES TOO MANY AND MOST CERTAINLY NOT NEXT TIME.

TIME TO FIND A NEW WAY TO FUND YOUR PIE HABIT TERRY!

lABOUR MUST DIE AND THE MALIGNANT ELEMENTS LIKE YOURSELF, SHARKEY AND OTHERS MUST BE REMOVED BEFORE THE PARTY CAN MOVE ON!

DO THE DECENT THING AND STAND DOWN.

GREGGS ARE APPARENTLY LOOKING FOR STAFF AND I HEAR THE PERKS ARE VERY GOOD

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr Kelly,

After reading your previous comments regarding the treatment of Craig Burley, it's obvious you were not there and have taken up an agenda for some particular reason.

What you print in your blog is lies, and lies smothered in a large dose of condescension. It actually beggars belief you can be so insular, blinkered and blinded from the truth.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Mark L.) 12/10/09
Because he was asked to by the residents – it’s rocket science right ?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Audrey) 12/10/09
If you want to make accusations against someone you must accept them as yours alone or name your source otherwise you have no credibility.

St. Mirren have already agreed to look into the problems identified by the residents and articulated by Jim Sharkey with a view to solving the situation amicably.
Your criticism lacks sincerity because anyone with a grain of sense knows that whatever happens here St. Mirren will not be moving from Allanton Playing Fields; your suggestion is therefore risible.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(IAIN) 12/10/09
Dear readers here is another example of what passes for debate among my political opponents; read it and decide if you want to vote for such people.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 08:40
I watched the match on TV and unfortunately for you so did many others; the abuse and chanting were terrible and very clear; in fact they were unmissable; why would you lie about this when it is so easy to prove you wrong.

Your comment rather backs up my argument about the legacy of Alex Ferguson.

Audrey said...

You didn't answer the question councillor.

Are you afraid?

Councillor Sharkey tried to raise an emergency motion against St Mirren's training ground lease at the last council meeting. Do you deny this?

It seems that At least Councillor Sharkey if not Renfrewshire Labour have a vendetta against St Mirren.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Audrey) 13/10/09
“Are you afraid?”

Don’t flatter yourself; the residents of Ralston found out about the 60 year lease and demanded through their local councillor Jim Sharkey that their views be heard and complained that there was no consultation.

Cllr. Sharkey tried at the meeting to have their submission considered before the vote on the lease was taken; it’s something you don’t understand it’s called democracy. The SNP refused just like they did over music tuition, schools, and pools.

Alec said...

"St. Mirren have already agreed to look into the problems identified by the residents and articulated by Jim Sharkey with a view to solving the situation amicably."

THIS IS A LIE.

Jim Sharkey is not in any dialogue with St Mirren.

All he has done is helped to raise petitions against the St Mirren training ground and tried to raise a council motion against St Mirren's lease.

Anyone at the club management can verify that Sharkey has not approached them or talked to them in any way particularly not in any constructive manner.

I have also this morning seen a copy of a letter from the residents action group against St Mirren to local councillors and guess who they have cited all contact and correspondence to pass to - Yep you guessed it LABOUR'S JIM SHARKEY.

I will be posting a copy of this letter in the official St Mirren website and the Black and White Army website to let my fellow fans know the situation.

I think that your party is underestimating the power of our following in Renfrewshire.

It sticks in my throat that Labour were all over us when they wanted the publicity when they tried to negotiate the Saints Training Ground to go into Penilee playing fields.

Now we have a successful facility that they have not been involved in, all they want to do is criticise and destroy it.

This will not be forgotten and our voice will be heard at the polls

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

"Jim Sharkey is not in any dialogue with St Mirren"

No one said he was; I said he was articulating the problems of the residents; how does that become "he is in a dialogue with St. Mirren?" Your fellow saints fans are in for a right laugh when you put pen to paper for them.

You clearly have great contempt for the Saints fans when you insult their intelligence in this way; you are quite prepared to use and exploit them with these lies to benefit the SNP.

I will look out for your efforts on these web sites and counter them with the truth.

I can and will explain to St. Mirren fans why myself and the Labour Group on Renfrewshire Council are the greatest friends St. Mirren ever had, don't take my word for it ask the chairman Mr. Gilmour, roll the dice son.

Alec said...

I will be in Mr Gilmour's company next week and will relay your comments and direct him to this post on your website.

He and others in the St Mirren management are fully aware of the damage that Mr Sharkey is trying to cause.

You are no friends of St Mirren or you would back off from causing so much trouble regarding the fantastic new facilty that the the council have organised for us.

Aileen said...

Cllr Kelly

Your colleague Jim Sharkey is a total hypocrite. He was happy for St Mirren to go to Penilee Playing Fields which is a lottery funded project and meant for school and community use. where was his concern for local residents then??? What has he done to address the problems at Ralston Playing Fields - NOTHING CONSTRUCTIVE! The other elected members in the ward are at least being pro active and working with the Officers and Club to address problems. As a local resident I am aware that Cllr McDonald has offered several times to organise a meeting for the Residents Action Group with senior council officers and the St Mirren Board. They didn't respond!! Who is leading who up the garden path??

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Aileen) 16:26

Your tone suggests that I am wasting my time but; being a patient man I will try.

At the time the proposals were being made for Penilee Playing Fields Jim Sharkey was not a councillor.

Cllr. McDonald’s position like that of her Liberal Democrat colleagues at that time was that there should be no St. Mirren training camp in Ralston; this is what she and they campaigned on.

She and they changed their minds when the SNP offered them jobs and money as part of a coalition.

“where was his concern for local residents then???”

Where was anyones? No one anticipated the problems we are now seeing not Jim Sharkey or anyone else. It’s only once the facility is up and running that these issues appear; Jim Sharkey is doing what his constituents have asked him to do.

The SNP/Lib.Dems. are cynically using this and using you as well to create a labour hates St. Mirren scenario; they are treating you with contempt.

You really ought to think before putting pen to paper but; as I said about your tone; I doubt if you will withdraw this nonsense.

Alec said...

Yes Jim Sharkey was not a councillor at this time but he was a Labour candidate and Labour were happy to send him along as their sole representation at a hugely attended public meeting on the matter where he was slaughtered by the residents.

Why?

Because Labour wanted to give away a lottery funded project (fought for by the local Lib Dem councillor for 10 years) that was earmarked for school and community use, to a private business (St Mirren) for a pittance.

TERRY KELLY SAID - "Cllr. McDonald’s position like that of her Liberal Democrat colleagues at that time was that there should be no St. Mirren training camp in Ralston"

THIS IS A LIE.

The position of the Lib Dems was publicly made clear several times and is on record. The Lib Dems had no problem at all with St Mirren, their issue was that Labour wanted to take away a funded project that was earmarked for the people and children of the local area and give it to a private business. This is in print on many occassions which I can back up.

Please direct me to your source of information that shows that the Lib Dems stated that "there should be no St. Mirren training camp in Ralston"

I know that you will not because you cannot.

Why?

Because you made it up.

It is in fact another quip from "Terry kelly's book of big fat lies volume 301"

Anonymous said...

I thought this was a wind up at first. Having read through the comments I am completly shocked! Whilst I think it is great that councillor's have such a thing as a blog I can't believe it is just a forum to have a slagging match as this seems! Your intial blog DOES suggest that St.Mirren has problems with racism and has for the Burley - please don't make me laugh! Like Burley strangely enough there wasn't a great deal made of it was there - NO. Because then it would have to be explained that it all started with the celtic fans singing sectarian nonsense and we cant have that - always easier to pick on the 'wee' team. First time every visiting a councillor website/blog and have to say very disappointed.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Alec) 15/10/09

Jim Sharkey did not get slaughtered at any meeting over this issue.

The Penilee Pavilion working group sat for over 10 years without a blade of grass being touched; it was going nowhere and numerous funding attempts fell through because the funding agencies could not agree on how the project should progress.

To suggest that the former Lib. / Dem. councillor fought for this for 10 tears is risible.

Labour proposed a training ground for St. Mirren with the proviso that it would be available to the local community; St. Mirren agreed to this. The opposition tried to amend this at the board meeting which called for the facility to be used by the community as well; something which was already there.

You might choose to believe that the Lib. / Dems. had no problem with St. Mirren but everyone else knows different, I will remind the Saints fans of their campaign to get people to refuse to vote Lib. / Dem. or am I making that up as well.

Lies indeed Alec eh! Big big lies; we will see what the fans remember if we have to.

Alec said...

I don't know how you can comment on the public meeting as neither you nor any Labour councillor attended the meeting through cowardice, as you new that the local people wre going to crucify you over you plans which is exactly what happened to Jim Sharkey.

You would have thought that as this was a Labour initiative, they would have sent along someone like Wendy Alexander to defend it, but then maybe she was too busy handing out political propaganda to primary school children outside their plagrounds. Risible indeed!

Mr Sharkey was very lucky that, at that time, the local residents did not know about his murky past at Glasgow City Council where he was suspended from the Labour Party for his his invlovement in a corruption scandal, otherwise he would have been chased for his life, however, this is becoming more common knowledge now.

I was actually at the meeting and therefore know what I am talking about.

Labour had previously wanted nothing to do with this development as it was in a Lib Dem stronghold and had been for a very long time.

They only got involved for 2 reasons.

1.The new voting system allowed them to field a candidate in the the much wider area that had a chance of getting in due to the multi member ward arrangement. It was very unfortunate that it was at the expense of your daughter who is a considerably more decent type of person than Jim Sharkey. I say that with sincerity incidentally.
2.After all the years of hard work and fighting (of which most of the credit must go to Nan McGregor (the Lib Dem councillor for the area at the time), most of the funding had been put in place and the project was finally about to commence. Cue Labour to come in and hijack the project away from the local community to give it to St Mirren as a huge publicity stunt just before the election.

No matter how you wish to twist things, these are the facts and they are on record.

I am a St Mirren fan, but I am also a local resident to the area and this is the first time that I can remember that any positive investment and development has been brought into this area for the benefit of the local residents.

When the area was a single member ward and a Lib Dem stronghold, Labour had no interest in the Ralston/Oldhall area and they virtually ignored it. Local people have not forgotten this.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Alec) 17/10/09

You should try to avoid writing late at night.

“comment on the public meeting as neither you nor any Labour councillor attended”

I spoke to Jim Sharkey about it; Jim Sharkey is not the type to be slaughtered by anyone; the idea is silly.

I have been to local schools as well; we are fighting against savage education cuts; you wouldn’t understand; it’s to do with politics.

I would suggest to you that if you have any accusations to make against Jim Sharkey that you go public but you won’t will you? then you would find out whether he can be slaughtered or not.

Local people will remember the response they have had from their councillors over the problems at St. Mirren’s training ground; only one councillor is prepared to help them; Jim Sharkey and St. Mirren fans know that Labour in Paisley have been their biggest friends and we can certainly prove that all right.

“neither you nor any Labour councillor attended the meeting through cowardice”

I am now called a coward by someone who is too afraid to identify himself; you couldn’t make it up.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Alec) 14/10/09
If I am any judge Mr. Gilmour will not be drawn in to any political controversy and I am equally sure that he will not think much of you for trying to use him and St. Mirren fans in this way.

He knows very well indeed that Labour have been very good to the club and he also knows that we have never tried to make political capital out of it.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 15/10/09

“Your intial blog DOES suggest that St.Mirren has problems with racism”

Are you suggesting that they don’t because if that’s your position you will be claiming that St. Mirren are the only Scottish club who don’t have this problem.

I have never heard a commentator react the way Burley did and I have no idea why he got such abuse.

“Celtic fans singing sectarian nonsense”

They do this everywhere they travel to; what’s it got to do with their attacks on Burley?

St. Mirren also have sectarian supporters as well; ask McGeadie; it’s not just the old firm and it has to be stopped everywhere; did you know for instance that Motherwell fans had to be stopped from hurling sectarian abuse at their own players!

Anonymous said...

Are you suggesting that it is right and proper to hand out political leaflets to primary school children as young as 8 or 9.

This is what Wendy Alexander did at Ralston Primary School.

Anonymous said...

"I would suggest to you that if you have any accusations to make against Jim Sharkey that you go public but you won’t will you? then you would find out whether he can be slaughtered or not."

These are not accusations that Alec has made about Jim Sharkey. They are facts and can be verified through various website and newspaper articles.

I have listed a selection below.

Can you show any information to the contrary? I doubt it

http://www.alba.org.uk/local/councilcompm.html

see under Glasgow section 24/9/1997

http://www.alba.org.uk/updates/update97.html

see 25/9/97


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/lord-provost-holds-onto-his-post-after-labour-suspension-1241074.html

extract from the Independent.

Are you still trying to deny that this happened

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 09:29

Why don’t you explain your objections; tell us what she did wrong. Go in to Paisley town centre at election time and you will see children of all ages with leaflets; stickers hats and balloons with party slogans and images on them, you are really silly aren’t you; no wonder you are hiding.

Wendy Alexander is at school gates for the same reason as me; we are trying to prevent savage education cuts for the sake of those children you are so keen to exploit, you should be thanking her.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 09:40
What about the very big elephant in your room Mr. Anonymous? If you are so sure of your accusations then what is stopping you from going public? I know that Jim Sharkey would be delighted to deal with you; he enjoys a good breakfast; you craven lying coward.

Anonymous said...

Shouldn't you be talking to Gordon Brown and asking him not to cut 500million from Scotlands budget

Anonymous said...

Why is my identity so important to you.

You are unable to refute the facts because they are true and I have supplied verification of them.

You on the other hand cannot show that what I am saying is untrue therefore you are must huff and puff about my anonymity as a smokescreen.

At least we have established the fact that Jim Sharkey was suspended from Glasgow City Council for his involvement in a corruption scandal.

AS I have provided you with 3 independent verifications of this fact then my identity is of no importance.

Anonymous said...

Why go public with such a thing just now.

Just before election time is best for that

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 10:43
I don’t remember Gordon Brown saying he was going to do that.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 10:49
If you accuse someone then your identity is important; this was your last chance if you make accusations against anyone and do so from your cowardly anonymous position they will not be printed, it’s real simple put your name to it and Jim Sharkey will do the rest.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 12:59
None of Jim Sharkey’s opponents made any accusations against him before the last election and they won’t at the next one because like you they are liars and cowards.

Alec said...

Re your comments about me being afraid to identify myself, I will resolve that at the next full council meeting.

A few of my colleagues wiil be attending as we understand that Mr Sharkey is again going to raise a motion against the Saints lease.

I hope to make it along just to see for my own eyes what is going on and that way we can let the rest of the fan base know.

I'll make myself known to when I'm there (providing that I can get away from work).

Alec

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Alec) 10:44
You make yourself known to me and I will make you known to Jim Sharkey and you can make your accusations to him personally.

Alec said...

No problem.

I wonder if he will remember me?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Alec) 21/10/09
Someone who would allow a slight; real or imagined; on a football team to determine how they vote would probably be the kind of person that you would remember; in saying this I assume that you are not in primary school.

Anonymous said...

Councillor Kelly, you sir are an embarrassment to Paisley.

I found this blog by chance. I care deeply about my town and St Mirren, to read your comments made me cringe.

To think that people like you make decisions regarding Paisley. No wonder the town is in its current state.

As an elected member of Renfrewshire council, you should consider conducting yourself in a more dignified manner on public forums.

Al

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

By Anonymous on "I'M GOING TO CHANGE; FROM NOW ON THERE WILL BE NO... on 05/06/11

Perhaps you could give examples of what I said that made you cringe.

If you could also find the courage to tell me who and what you are I could then decide whether or not I should concern myself with what you think.

Anonymous said...

Mr Kelly,
Al states he is from Paisley, for that very reason you should care what he thinks.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

By Anonymous on "I'M GOING TO CHANGE; FROM NOW ON THERE WILL BE NO... at 15:31

Dear Mr. Anonymous when Al. Wrote his insulting comment to me he forfeited any right to expect me to care about what he thinks.

If he wants to write to me in a respectful way I will reply in kind, is there anything wrong with that?

Anonymous said...

Sir,when i came across this blog i thought the whole thing was a wind up!You 'councillor' are an embarrassing joke!You sound more like a spoilt teenager than a elected councillor.
A dumbfounded Englishman.



I see my comment has to be approved, do your socialist principles extend to free speech?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

By Anonymous on "I'M GOING TO CHANGE; FROM NOW ON THERE WILL BE NO... on 22/01/12

Read the following carefully –

If someone writes to me and libels or slanders a third party without giving their own name, as owner of this blog I become the person responsible for the alleged libel/slander. That is why everyone who writes a blog reserves the right to ‘approve’ what comments shall be published. And you call me an embarrassing joke!