Saturday, May 09, 2009


Reflecting on the defeat of Hitler and the Nazis; the great German writer Bertolt Brecht wrote in his play of 19 41 The Resistible Rise of Arturo Ui “Do not rejoice in his defeat, you men. For though the world has stood up and stopped the bastard, the bitch that bore him is in heat again”

Brecht could have been talking about Britain 2009. As we head for the European elections in June the Nazi British Nationalist Party are hoping to do well enough in these elections to release funding from Europe of £2million which will be used by them to spread fascism, hatred and racism, do you want this to happen? If your answer is no then you must do whatever you can to stop these evil people; even if it’s only to make sure that you make a point of voting then you must do so, for the sake of your conscience.

Consider the following – Reflecting on the death of Tory Leader David Cameron’s disabled son Ivan, Jeff Marshall central London BNP candidate said “it would be a kindness to kill children with disabilities; there is actually not a great deal of point in keeping these sort of people alive, after all.”

How about Tony Lecomber, until 2008 one of BNP leader Nick Griffin’s right-hand men. Lecomber proposed a racist eugenics programme, echoing that of the Nazi murderer Dr Josef Mengele, which advocated a “racially purer” Britain through the sterilisation of the poor, the sick and the disabled. Lecomber believed, and presumably still does, that the rich are “genetically superior” to ordinary people and that poor people should not be allowed to have their own children.

Take a look at some of the blogs frequented by the BNP and their followers, here you will see them without the suits and platitudes but; be warned It is very disturbing stuff-remember It is written by fellow members of the human race.



The Blog below is an anti BNP one and contains the following stunningly evil comment again about the Tory leader’s late son –
“the waste of flesh & blood that was 'ivan cameron', this piece of shit should have been drowned at birth!”

They are a political mob who attract the worst elements of society, racists, thugs and haters of all things decent. I consider myself to be an Internationalist as well as a Socialist and have never been bothered about whether I am proud to be British, just being a citizen of the planet earth does me fine, being ashamed of being British however is different it’s not a nice feeling but these people make me feel just that.

Defeat, crushing; heavy and humiliating defeat for these wannabee Nazis will make me feel less ashamed, let’s do the decent British thing and wipe them out come June.


David Duff said...

"The exhibit [in Ottawa showing the history of eugenics] is important, accurate but, regrettably, long overdue. It also fails to stress just how much the socialist left initiated and supported the eugenics campaign, not only in Germany but in Britain, the U. S. and the rest of Europe. Playwright George Bernard Shaw, English social democrat leader Sydney Webb and, in Canada, Tommy Douglas were just three influential socialists who called, for example, for the mass sterilization of the handicapped."

And give me a tip, Councillor, should I vote the Labour ticket bearing in mind that your government is moving perceptably towards softening the line on euthenasia? You will understand, I am sure, that because I am poised to reach my 70th birthday next week my interest is more than somewhat personal.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(David Duff) 09/05/09
You missed out H.G.Wells; yes the Fabians, you are referring to events of approx. 100 years ago and cherry picking from a part of history is not a valid argument here, it’s laziness, these people are running for election to the European Parliament next month.
I am instinctively against euthanasia even for cretins like you; It's rather noticeable that you don't mention the BNP I’ll put you down as one of their supporters then.

David Duff said...

"I’ll put you down as one of their [BNP] supporters then."

You might as well, after all you wouldn't wish to confuse your other reader by writing something accurate, would you?

Incidentally, on the subject of mass murder of the innocent, how does the Labour party stand on abortion?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(David Duff) 17:19

The Labour Party supports abortion with the parliamentary guide lines adhered to.

I would say with some confidence that if abortion was indeed “mass murder of the innocents” then they would not support it.

You were given the chance to comment on the BNP and you declined so; if the shoe fits David.

David Duff said...

But I did "comment on the BNP", Councillor, I described your notion as inaccurate but in an eliptical manner whose meaning obviously passed you by.

I admire the confidence you have in the moral worth of the Labour party to protect the innocent. Such a pity you cannot explain it to a 5-month old foetus that is recognisably human and which is yanked, bit by bit, from a uterus. Similarly, according to some members of the Labour party you might have to explain the death of thousands of innocents in Iraq and Iran.

The words pot, kettle and black come to mind!

Anonymous said...

What is this "decent British" thing yo talk about?

Britain never fought the zazis to help those other countries keep their freedom. Britain only fought to keep their place as the top empire in the world. The same reason they fought the French, the Spanish, the Dutch before.

Fighting for freedom when they were keeping half the world from getting theirs eh! There has never been a decent British thing that is why the nazis copied the British with their concentration camps. I suppose the British were decent because they didn't manage to kill as many people in theirs

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(David Duff) 07:46

If you allowed yourself to just accept that you are not nearly as clever as you like to think you are you would not keep getting in to such a mess.

You didn’t comment on the BNP and you haven’t done so again, unless of course you are still being elliptic and trying to impress us with your great intelligence, I think it’s rather more simple, if it looks and smells like a rat it’s usually a rat.

Your last para. displays your hatred of Labour rather than any genuine sympathy for the fate of unborn children or the war dead, your a real Mr. nasty aren’t you?

If you were capable of showing any intellectual rigour you might consider the many people in the Labour Party who are opposed to the Iraq war and abortion, I personally know many anti abortion people who are Labour Party members as well as many others who are devout Catholics including priests who are staunch Labour supporters, but; that would require you to think wouldn’t it.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 13:34

“What is this "decent British" thing yo talk about?”

I take it you don’t do irony then ?

I think that you might have things to say about the “British” which I would probably agree with, but fighting fascism was a good cause and still is when it comes to the BNP.

David Duff said...

'Anon', you're not the Councillor's brother by any chance? I only ask because you appear to have roughly the same knowledge of history, that is, somewhere between 0 and -0.1.

The British did not fight the Nazis to defend their empire, in fact just the opposite, it was the empire who went to war with Germany on our behalf. We went to war for the same reason we had in the previous 150 years, in order to preserve the balance of power in Europe.

That might or might not be a good or even a sufficient reason, but it was the only reason. The Germans posed no threat to our empire, only to us. I make no claims concerning the niceness, or otherwise of the British vis-a-vis other nations.

Councillor, by coincidence a reader left me this excerpt from WKPD (alas I cannot give you the reference):

""In Sweden, the "Sterilization Act of 1934" provided for the voluntary sterilization of some mental patients. The law was passed while the Swedish Social Democratic Party was in power, though it was also supported by all other political parties in Parliament at the time, as well as the Lutheran Church and much of the medical profession.[92] From about 1934 to until 1975, Sweden sterilized more than 62,000 people....Sweden sterilized more people than any other European state except Nazi Germany...
Sweden's large-scale eugenics program targeted the deviant and the mentally ill. Most sterilizations were voluntary[citation needed] (though voluntary does not necessarily mean free from persuasion or exhortation), but nine per cent of the sterilized were more or less forced to do so.

I know it does not refer to the British socialist party but you are all 'Brothers' and 'Sisters' under the slin, are you not?

Martin said...

Great post and a timely reminder of some of the BNPs other repellant views.

Of course none of these ideas is openly stated as party policy -they're not that daft but that Jeff Marshall has not been expelled from the party speaks volumes.

Whatever disagreements exist between Labour, Conservatives, SNP, Lib Dems and Greens I cannot imagine a member let alone a fairly senior member being allowed to remain a member after expressing views of that nature.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(David Duff) 12/05/09

I don’t know what all this rambling drivel re. Britain is about; I suggested Britain was right to go to war against Nazism, I then suggested that Britain has a brutal side to its history as well, I regard that as true.

I’m not sure why you thought it necessary to provide the history lesson on Sweden; maybe it makes you feel important but it’s not really relevant, what would be relevant would be you sticking to the subject i.e. the BNP. Is it cowardice or shame that prevents you?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Thank you for your comments, I did not enjoy writing those things and believe it or not I could have written much worse but; I think people are not being told enough about the true nature of these people, they are evil incarnate.

Anonymous said...

Here Duff, I have a couple of points and question for you. No on, other than a nutcase, is 'for' abortion in the sense that you present it. It is the 'right' to choose an abortion that is the question. Nobody as far as I am aware, wakes up and says 'oh, I'm a bit fed up, I fancy and abortion today'. The 'right' to have an abortion if 'necessary', does though, raise the question of the begining of cellular human life and the question of human 'being'. You make the two synonymous. I am unclear on this question, but I do not think I have the right to play God and determine that 'life' is human 'being' as such. If you claim that abortion is wrong because it destroys 'life' then masturbation and menstruation are not only sins but 'crimes'. Oh, and cutting your nails might even pass as a sort of destruction of 'life' under this frame of reference. Do not think that this is garbled nonesense, there are, and have been, many many sincere and especially religious ideologues and even mystics, who hold this view. Have a think about it and at least be sincere. If life is sacred at any initial chromatin point then wank*ing must spell mass murder. If you have ever committed the sin of onanism, then you really are obliged (on pain of bad faith) to turn yourself in to the spiritual police, or top yourself!

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 17:58

I would not normally print this kind of language but; it’s too important to stop you from having your say.

I agree that “no one is for abortion” I’m not “for abortion” but until we have a society where having a child is not a penalty for someone then it will remain, that would be a society where every child really is sacred.

I appreciate the detail that you refer to and agree it is important; while not being prepared to go there on this occassion. I would like to assume that those who oppose abortion completely because of the sanctity of life would also be opposed to capital punishment or war but alas they are not; so much so that some of them are prepared to murder doctors and nurses who carry out abortions.

Anonymous said...

Great article but I think you were rather too soft on Tony Lecomber. Get your eyes round this he's deeply nast even by BNP standards.

Here's how Glasgow BNP candidaste like to spend his leisure time (see the first comment).

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 23/05/09

Keep up the good work; people must not be allowed to sleep walk in to a situation where these goons win votes.