Tuesday, August 21, 2007

REAL SCOTTISH HEROES

Something to be truly proud of, three recent events. On TV - 'The Amazon Heartbeat' told the story of people carrying through a project to take medical aid to some of the poorest people in the world in the Amazon basin. The site of poor disease ridden children being treated with what are sometimes quite simple remedies to us was quite moving and also served to remind me of why I'm in politics and, why I hold the beliefs that are so important to me.

This project was achieved against great odds and the programme resonates with Scottish voices, try to watch the next episode, well done to all of them.

'From the Congo to Motherwell' was another uplifting programme, refugees from that tragic country are being resettled and made welcome by the people of Motherwell who have taken them to their hearts.
These people have fled hunger, poverty and violence and are now making a new life here in Scotland, if you must have something that makes you proud of your country then you should start right here.

The Paisley Daily Express carries the story of two courageous Paisley women who travelled to the Middle East to give medical help and other assistance to one of the most tragic and dangerous places on the planet, 'The Gaza Strip' sometimes referred to as the world's biggest prison.

Palestinians packed into a small cramped area surrounded by hunger and disease, also surrounded by their oppressors the state of Israel who treat them with appalling disregard for the sanctity of human life.

These two women reported their terror at coming under fire from the Israeli military who also used gas to attack them and the Palestinians that they were trying to help, gassing women and children ! that's what the Israelis are now doing, who would have thought that possible ? again if you are looking for a source of pride you have it right there.

69 comments:

RfS said...

The world has given far more in the way of aid to the Palestinians than they have to Israel. Yet after the same period of existence the Palestinians still live in "refugee" camps and worship death.

They don't love their children enough yet and well meaning western aid is keeping them in this state.

David Duff said...

Heroes? They're not heroic. Kind, generous, altruistic - at least the first two groups appear to be so, the last two biddies should keep their silly noses out of other people's business, particularly when it's murderous business.

Now, if you want a *real* Scottish hero, try 'Ned' Callender; but because of your soppiness, Councillor, you will have to go to my place to read about him. You are permitted to hold your nose when you cross the threshold:

http://duffandnonsense.typepad.com/duff_nonsense/2007/08/real-heroes-1.html

Anonymous said...

The Palestinians only have themselves to blame by allowing the extremists amongst them to bombard Israel with rockets.

Expecting Israel not to react is utterly gaga.

Karla said...

I missed the programme about the refugees in Motherwell but a few anti-social elements aside I think the whole of Scotland should be proud of the way those in our pooerest communities have welcomed refugees. That's not to say their isn't work to be done with regard to racism and so on but It's nice to see some good news for a change!

Karla said...

Terry,
I've not long found your blog and I was just reading your earlier post about 'terrywatch'. I'm truly shocked. I accept that everyone has a right to free speech but the stuff on that blog goes way beyond normal boundries. Truly viscious, hate filled and to honest I suspect more than one of the writers has a serios mental problem/ personality disorder.

Have you tried complaing to Blogger or raising the matter with the police?

It looks to me like a fairly well orgainsed gnat/tory alliance. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the work of party activists.

Totally sickening.

Angry Steve said...

Interesting you didn't mention that the folk involved in the Amazon Hope are Christians.

But yes, we should be proud of them.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

RFS - You remain an apologist for evil, you have no shame, no sense of decency.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

david duff - see my reply to RFS

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

anon - see my reply to RFS

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Karla - well said.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Karla - I agree it's pretty dreadful but I'm content to let it go on the basis of wanting people to see what my opponents are like.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

angry steve - I didn't know they were Christians you idiot.

David Duff said...

Yes, yes, Councillor, if you wish to maintain your delusion that all the evil in Israel and Palestine is firmly on one side of the fence, then I have no wish to disappoint you.

However, as a proud Jock I'm surprised you haven't spread the word on a true 'tartan' hero, 'Ned' Callender.

RfS said...

Terry,

I am somewhat shocked and appalled by your response to Karla above. Surely she is but a coward hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet but you failed to call her such.

Could it be because you have finally persuaded someone from your local party to join the fight? Her comments certainly smack of collusion to me.

Jackart said...

Only the most blinkered socialist would find terrywatch offensive. It is legitimate (if universally negative) comment about an elected official and his writings by a broad church of opponents - something surely protected under freedom of speech. I'd love you to link to any post therein which you consider legally actionable. You won't of course, because there aren't any, and you're too stupid to work out basic HTML.

But any criticism of "the party" or its aparatchicks cannot be tolerated and is probably either "illegal" or "mentally ill". No wonder you lament the soviet union. If you had your way, all Tories/Nats/SSP supporters would be for the salt mines...

And you call us "mentally ill"

Jackart said...

By the way... I suspect "Karla" is a pseudonym for Cllr Kelly.

Painfully transparent, desperate and more than a little pathetic.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

david duff - there have been wrongs on both sides but there is no doubt who is too blame, Israel.

Think about a Palestinian child throwing a stone at an Israeli tank and you might get the picture.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

RFS - I've heard it said that if you live long enough you will see everything.

Did you just accuse me of collusion ?

RFS - terrywatch - clairwil - surreptitious evil - devils kitchen ? need I go on ?

You're really a clown aren't you.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Jackart - I didn't call you or anyone mentally ill - I have never tried to impede terrywatch in any way I encourage people to read it, it got me elected with ease. I love telling people about you and the others. They start by not believing me and then wonder about all of you when they have read what you write. Keep it up.

I don't consider you to be very bright though I won't put it any stronger than that.

Tom Paine said...

"I don't consider you to be very bright" is an undoubted compliment from the biggest fool on the internet.

Judging by her spelling, Karla (Smiley's counterpart at Moscow Central, I believe) is not so much a collaborator as a sock puppet. Or does every member of your local Party spell like an eight-year old (and an eight-year old too thick to use a spell checker at that?)

Your image of the Palestinian child vs the Israeli tank is pathetic in every sense. Disarm the Israelis and there would be genocide. Disarm the Palestinians and there would be peace.

C4' said...

I didn't call you or anyone mentally ill - I have never tried to impede terrywatch in any way

1) You inferred that RfS might be a paedophile.

2) You claimed that Shotgun was mentally unbalanced according to some nameless medical associate of yours.

3) You wrote a post about Terry Watch should be banned and you accused RfS of sending you and your family threatening emails and phone calls.

I admit that I have misjudged you Terry, because even though you come across as an utter buffoon, you're sly and cunning spin doctor and pathological liar. I'm surprised that Tony "Adolf" Blair and Gordon "McStalin" Brown didn't recuit you for the 10 Downing Street press office.

4) You called me a "squalid wee fantasist".

RfS said...

Are you deliberately doing that?

I mean, that was the whole point - pointing out that collusion only appears to apply to those who you have set your face against.

Am I a clown? Hmmm.......

And you never got back to me about that councillor I wrote to you about. I feel jilted :-(

David Duff said...

But let's hear it for 'Ned' Callender!

Jackart said...

I notice you didn't publish my other comment...

Byeck said...

Councillor,
Palestinian child throwing stones at an Israeli tank?
I dont think this little hero got shot, but the Hungarians who threw things at Soviet tanks most certainly did.
Personally, I think throwing anything, other than a large bazooka, at a tank is just plain daft, but it takes all kinds.....

Karla said...

Those Terrywatchers really are just plain nasty. They've now got a post up denouncing me for agreeing with you. So much for free speech. It's not even intelligent comment just "Karla the elephant this" and "Karla the elephant that".

Sick.

Karla said...

To avoid any doubt here and to stop my attackers at Terrywatch getting away with theyre lies. I AM NOT RAYLEEN KELLY. I DO NOT KNOW TERRY KELLY OR HIS FAMILIES. I AM NOT AN ELEPHANT OR ANY OTHER ANIMAL.

I'm just an ordinary member of the public concerned at the way both politics and the internet is being destroyed by right wingers and nationalists. Why should I have a blogger profile because they say so. I'm not the person hiding their identity Karla is my real name. Anonymity should no longer be allowed on the internet.

Surreptitious Evil said...

Terry,

Nope, just checked, DK isn't a Terrywatch author (or guest). He has his own blog.

Karla, if you actually wanted:

"viscious, hate filled and to honest I suspect more than one of the writers has a serios mental problem/ personality disorder."

you could (but I wouldn't actually recommend it) have a look at The Terry Boys. This site is completely unaffiliated with TerryWatch.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

jackart - Karla ? you are painfully stupid and wrong as usual.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Tom Paine - Your inability to make a point without using personal abuse seriously undermines you.

Your last para. Shows you as another apologist for Israeli crimes - that image of the Palestinian child facing the Israeli tank tells the world the truth far better than thousands of your lies.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

C4 -
1/ I said that Disclosure Scotland would not clear RFS to work with children based on his blog and his links to people like you and I stand by that.
2/ That's nonsense. Try to explain yourself.
3/ I might have called for it to be banned but I wouldn't dream of it now, it's too valuable to me. I didn't accuse RFS of that. Have you any regard for the truth ?
4/ I don't remember that but I feel I can call you anything I want because that's exactly what you do, if I use that kind of language it's in retaliation, you, I'll wager learned it at your mother's knee.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

RFS - you are getting more limp by the day, after all this time I'm accused of collusion ! Maybe I've got it wrong, maybe you and the rest of the right wing low life's don't collude, I'm happy for others to judge.

I forgot about that email if I've still got it I will respond.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

jackart - do you know why ?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Byeck - Hungarians shot by Russians - Vietnamese peasants shot by Americans - civil rights demonstrators shot by American National Guardsmen - from Peterloo to Derry civilians shot by British troops, I could go on and on and etc. You're not very good at this are you ?

This little hero didn't have your sophisticated military knowledge and wouldn't know about a bazooka but, a picture like this is worth a million Israeli lies.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Karla - Those responsible for 'terrywatch' are a right wing rabble of low degree but I would be distraught without them, I regret that they now abuse you but they are well beneath you.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Karla - well said but be warned you are dealing with some very nasty people -

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

surreptitious evil - Do try to keep up I accused him of collusion that's all - read it again.

Jackart said...

Yet again, I struggle to see what you find so offensive about terrywatch. Link to a post that you consider unpleasant.

Or do you think that anyone who disagrees with you is in some way a sociopath (look it up).

Really, terry you need to get out more. Terry watch is just playful political banter. You're the one condoning mass murder and political repression...

Oh and Karla, your syntax and choice of words is remarkably similar to our hero's. I still think you and Terry are one and the same.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Jackart - You can rely on it that I'm glad that in your world 'terrywatch' is playful political banter.

Sociopath ? Are you trying to say that you are not really that nasty after all, that you are in fact all mouth ?

David Duff said...

Sorry, 'Ned', I tried to get you a detailed citation here as a true tartan hero but nobody cares on this site which is run by a man who passes himself off as a Jock. No wonder you left 'Jockland' as soon as you could and joined the French Foreign Legion.

Byeck said...

Councillor
Your capacity for ignoring facts is awesome. You are seriously comparing the behaviour British troops in Northern Ireland to that of the Red Army's finest in Hungary??

First,just to remind you - N.Ireland is part of the UK and the majority want it to stay that way.

Second, Hungary was not part of Russia and the majority of Magyars also wanted it to stay that way.

Third,had it been the Soviet, rather than the British Army in N.I., Adams and McGuiness would have been singing soprano with the choir celestial years ago.

Please, do be careful - if you continue in this vein, I think Matron will stop you Blogging

Jim Lewis said...

"Tom Paine - Your inability to make a point without using personal abuse seriously undermines you."

Does 'babbling clown' fall into this category?

David Duff said...

Sorry, 'Ned', I did my best to bring your memory before our Scottish host as an example of a "Real Scottish Hero" but as you can see from up there, he's not interested in real, proper, give-up-their-lives heroes, he's only interested in basking in the feeble glow of a pair of poke-nose trouble-makers who probably deserve an Israeli shell up their one-sided fanaticism.

Rest in Peace, 'Ned', it looks as though you did die in vain judging by the sort of people who are running Scotland today, but there are one or two of us will raise glass on Armistice Day to your memory.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Byeck - Nicaragua - El Salvador - Cambodia - South Africa - Ireland - Chile - Argentina Greece - India - Spain - Kenya etc. Etc.

You are a dupe.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

jim lewis - 'Tom Paine' some people don't count when it comes to this, like you and RFS whom you do not collude with.

You contacted me away back and started the abuse right away, I now simply answer you in kind, you could change if you want.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

David Duff - 'poke nosed trouble makers' they were women with medical experience who went to help in Gaza, are you upset that they might have saved a few Arab children from the Israelis ?

Or is it that the world sees again, the Israel war machine shooting and gassing women and children, you must be proud of them.

Byeck said...

Councillor
First you compare the actions of British troops in Northern Ireland to the Red Army in Hungary and now,to support your argument,you introduce another eleven countries into the debate, eight of which I doubt have ever seen a British soldier.
Initially, I couldn't see your point then I realised - you're using the Scargill Gambit aren't you, you rascal - Bulls*** Baffles Brains.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Byeck - you seem to be struggling so I will make it easy for you - I'm pointing out that countries all over the world have been guilty in the past including Britain - did you know that German soldiers made pacts with each other not to be taken alive by Scottish troops ?

War turns people into animals, people commit unspeakable acts against their fellow human beings, we in Britain are no better or worse than any others, talking about Ireland, have you ever heard of the 'Black n Tans' go and read it and feel the shame - India ? feel the shame - Palestine ? Feel the shame - people who live in glass houses Byeck eh.

Visit Auswitch as I have and ask yourself the question could we, the British have done this ? the unpleasant answer is yes.

If a country wih an ancient history and culture like Germany could ( Schiller, Beethoven, Guttenberg, Brecht, Wagner )then so could anyone, do you know who invented concentration camps ?

Byeck said...

Councillor
As always, you've ALMOST got it! The British introduced CONCENTRATION Camps during the Boer rebellion.
The Germans had DEATH camps during WW2, (as did their ally,Stalin.)
I hope you can see that there is a difference.
Black & Tans? The IRA have been responsible for more Irish deaths than the B&Ts.
India? General Dyer was court marshalled for the Amritsar massacre.
Palestine? British squaddies were getting killed trying to keep the peace. Remember the King David Hotel?
Scottish soldiers? Admittedly an ugly lot, but a foul slur on a fine body of men and one made, as usual, without any evidence to back it up.

Jim Lewis said...

Terry, I realise that 'collude' is a new word you've latched on to. Try not to use it quite so much, because frankly it's showing your ignorance. I never suggested any collusion between you and sock puppets or indeed any other kind of puppet. As I've already stated, addressing someone on a personal level doesn't necessarily suggest a conspiracy. RFS said something to which I replied. I don't sit around with him planning what to say next to you. You're not that difficult to show up. We're not all trying to make a fool of you. You're doing a grand job on your own.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Byeck - you are squirming over concentration camps - Black n Tans ? They were OK then. India a lot more than Dyer should have been treated as war criminals, he didn't get justice though did he ? He survived.

My reference to Palestine was about Balfour and how we behaved as a country, our betrayal of the Arabs.

Scottish soldiers ? English, Welsh, Irish, Americans, Russians ? You're nothing more than a duped badge kisser who is afraid of the truth.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Jim Lewis - Another load of cobblers, what are you guys afraid of ? we all know why you did it, it shows how pathetic you are, will you admit it though.

Maybe I should start telling people about my hard life and all my problems, I've never really thought about that.

Scunnered, O'Aberdein said...

Hi again, Terry

Your holding forth of Wagner as an example of the richness and purity of German culture, prior to its descent into the slimepits associated with the Third Reich, is something that I shall treasure forever

Jim Lewis said...

"Jim Lewis - Another load of cobblers, what are you guys afraid of ? we all know why you did it, it shows how pathetic you are, will you admit it though.

Maybe I should start telling people about my hard life and all my problems, I've never really thought "

Why we did what? What are are you babbling about? You've got me nonplussed. My wife was ill for a while, RFs mentioned it, I thanked him. Where was the anti-Terry conspiracy?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Scunnered - Richness ? yes, but why do you deem it necessary to say I said purity ? (slip up) I can listen to Wagner as well as Beethoven but I'm no expert I think that you might find that Wagner is very popular and he has many fans.

You seem to have ignored my argument for some reason - I thought that saying that all civilised people are capable of atrocities including the British would have provoked you into some flag waving ? No answer then ?

I understand that he was anti Semitic as well just like Mel Gibson and several others, I'll bet that shocked you eh ?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

jim lewis - I bet you feel better already, just a few more words to go and you will have purged yourself, go on.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

jim lewis - still wriggling

Jim Lewis said...

Eh?

Jim Lewis said...

What is it we or I did?

Jim Lewis said...

Just so we know what we're talking about, and I apologise for repetition. The following is a verbatim copy of what RFS , I and you wrote.

"Cllr Terry Kelly said...
Jim lewis - was this misdirected, did you mean it to go to RFS."

"Jim Lewis said...
No, and yes "


" Cllr Terry Kelly said...
jim lewis - what am I missing here ? "

"Jim Lewis said...
You asked two questions. I answered them. Since big words seem to bother you, I thought I'd keep it simple."

" Cllr Terry Kelly said...
jim lewis that's a cowardly answer."

(I don't quite get that one Tel, but we'll let it go)


Now, I spend quite a lot of time addressing you in my posts. Does that suggest I'm colluding with you? RFS had questioned your reference to me as a babbling clown and mentioned what I'd been through in the last month. I expressed appreciation for his concern, which seemed to annoy you. Are we a tad snippy that someone might use our blog to reply to someone who isn't you?

So, if neither you nor the sock puppet can work out what was meant by my replies firstly to RFS and then to your questions, then you are right. You have no chance of working out what's going on in my head. Christ, you have trouble working out what's going in your own.

Time to piss or get off the pot Councillor. You are clearly using innuendo to suggest that I, RFS, or both of us did or said soemthing untoward. I maintain that he mentioned an unfortunate sequence of events in my private life, for which I thanked him. You asked me two questions, both of which I answered. It's time you stopped acting like a schoolboy and either enlighten me and the rest of the dear readers as to what it is that's running through what passes for a mind or belt up.

Karla, I hope you're reading this, if you exist. This is the poor unfortunate who is so picked on by all those horrible, viscious (sic) bullies. Innuendo is his stock-in trade, largely because he can actually support very little of what he claims. If you're so bloody fair minded, why don't you exhort the councillor to front up and let the world know what it is RFS and I have done. As I said in another post, I'm not holding my breath. Personally, I would love to meet the councillor face to face, not for the obvious reason, but because I'd love to hear him express himself without the shield of the PC,a nd the time to compose his idiotic rantings. In all the time I've been visiting this forum, I've yet to read an actual straight answer from the man. When all else fails, he simply avoids questions with insult and innuendo. Karla, make me a liar here. Show me where I'm wrong about this man, but please use evidence, not Terry's methods.

Scunnered, O'Aberdein said...

Hi Terry

'You seem to have ignored my argument for some reason - I thought that saying that all civilised people are capable of atrocities including the British would have provoked you into some flag waving ? No answer then ?'

Goodness gracious, of course I have. I merely thought that, given your attempt to show the potential for any people to go from 'good' to 'bad', your including Wagner in that particular starting point was wonderfully funny.

I know all too well that we can sink even further into into barbarity. Look at where we've got to so far over the last 10 years. I have already warned the kids to beware of not only the current regime but also, when we have degenerated that bit more, your future followers as they come round to try to lock them up for not having the Cuban flag waving above the door..or whatever other nonsense passes for your brand political correctness at the time

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Jim Lewis - if you did nothing wrong why are you so obsessed with this, we all need sympathy some time just admit it and you can move on.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Jim Lewis - as I said obsessed with something you deny doing, you're like a dog returning to it's vomit.

You made a complete fool of yourself and what's worse for a macho man like you, you made yourself look weak and pathetic.

Keep it going if you like, but it's getting boring and most people who read this have you sussed anyway.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Scunnered - I seem to have upset you more than usual here - we both know why that is don't we ? It's your rather clumsy use of the Wagner ref. Isn't it.

Maybe scunnered, just maybe, your not quite as clever as you would like us all to think - most people would have spotted the Wagner thing a mile off but, OK. learn from it and calm down.

Jim Lewis said...

"Keep it going if you like, but it's getting boring and most people who read this have you sussed anyway."

See, that's where we differ. I would have thought mots [people reading ths would be both bored and bewildered. I know I am. But juts so as to be clear abouth this, what is it I'm supposed to have denied? I haven't actually been able to deny anything yet because innuendo has been the order of the day. Anyhow, you're right. I don't think there's the slightest chance that, unlike me, you'll actually answer a question.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

jim lewis - keep it going if you like, I'm not about to rescue you.

Jim Lewis said...

From?

Anonymous said...

"Tom Paine - Your inability to make a point without using personal abuse seriously undermines you."

A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!

I bet any amount of money that your response to this post is a personal insult.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

anon - Tom Paine ?

Stunning eloquence, no wonder you choose anonymity.