Wednesday, February 28, 2007

POLITICS N STUFF

The Lib. Dems. have been showing their colours, two of their councillors in Burnley supported a BNP candidate for a post on a regeneration project, there's not much to add is there, the cuddly Lib. Dems. eh.

SELECTIONS - Are complete and Labour have candidates in place for the council and Holyrood elections in May, including me, we have a a lot to be proud of and a lot still to do, Ren. Council has, under Labour built new schools and social work facilities for the elderly and those with learning difficulties as well as increasing the numbers of foster carers. We have made great progress on environmental issues and crime prevention, if elected we will continue to deliver on our promises and commitments, I confidently ask for therefore for your vote.
TRIDENT - I attended a meeting in the Methodist Halls in Paisley which was addressed by Buce Kent of CND, he spoke eloquently about the future of our own and other societies around the world and our relationships with nuclear arms and those who have them.
Why are some countries allowed these weapons and others not ? some very simple questions are sometimes the hardest to answer aren't they and, this one is a cracker. The response we hear often is that some countries and some leaders are unstable and dangerous and therefore are not suitable to have such weapons, this is of course the 'western' response, let's take a step back.

Along with a great many others I do not regard President Bush as a suitable person to be anywhere near any combustible materials let alone nuclear weapons, but he is. Unstable countries ? Iran ? North Korea ? how about the most volatile, aggressive, provocative place on the planet, Israel, if there is to be a major confrontation involving huge war machines and nuclear weapons my money is on it starting with Israel, yet, they don't get treated like the others mentioned. I believe that anyone who thinks that there are more dangerous states in the world than Israel has not been paying attention.

Trident is not a defence, it's a provocation, the cost £100, BN. would more than protect jobs and last but not least, it's evil and immoral, our efforts should be concentrated on international talks through the UN to get rid of such weapons from every corner of the globe with no exceptions, none.

87 comments:

Jackart said...

Would the "Crime prevention" work you still have to do include, well ... fraud by any chance?

As for the US and Israel being ustable regimes - they are democratic. They have checks and balances. They are not dictatorships - not now, nor will they ever be.

Israel is surrounded by people who would deny the country's right to exist. Of course they're tooled up.

Whilst unstable regions with nutty rulers like Iran are searching for the bomb, I want this country to be tooled up too. We need to maintain our deterrent and to do so is legal, even under the NPT.

I also think it's reasonable (and legal - NPT anyone?) to prevent other, less savoury regimes getting the bomb.

Your point on nuclear disarmament does have at least the virtue of consistency, if not a grasp of real politik.

Your posts are getting better. Maybe its all this interaction with grown-ups.

RightForScotland said...

How many countries have Israel threatened to wipe off the map? How many countries has the US threatened to wipe off the map? How many countries has Iran threatened to wipe off the map? How many nuclear standoffs have been provoked by the actions of a democratically elected head of state? How do you judge Bush to be unsuitable to be around simple fire?

Of the people on the Labour list for the council are any of them currently under police investigation for expenses fraud?

You imply that the investigation is politically motivated, this raises a couple of questions:

1) Why do the group not issue a statement to this effect?

2) Why do those investigated come out and reveal themselves and make political capital out of being the victims of a smear?

3) Why has the report centred on the Labour group only? As we have seen with the honours enquiry the investigation would fish for more crimes beyond the initial complaint (See coopers blog for good explanation for fiddling detection rates).

I am sure that Renfrewshire Council Tax payers, opening their notice of increase, will want to know how much of their 2% increase is going on fraudulent claims.

C4' said...

I and a Master Don Paskini beat you to your Fib Dim/BNP story a while ago.

http://conservativemindblog.blogspot.com/2007/01/fascist-tendencies-of-liberal-democrats.html

Why do you hate Israel and the Jews so much?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Israel was created by terrorist gangsters in 19 48 so they must have wiped someone off the map surely, I wonder who that could have been ?

Your typical laziness catches you out again, go and check up on fraud and prosecutions and see if it's only Labour who find themselves accused.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

RFS - Are you quite well, read your comment again, you seem to be unravelling. Is it anger, or frustration at not being able to land a blow ? Anger seems to be getting the better of you. Come on RFS we both know what we are talking about don't we ?

A little while ago I decided to give you enough rope just to see how far your arrogance would take you, and you came up trump's. I would like to take the credit but, sorry, you did it to yourself.

For several weeks now you have been going round in ever decreasing circles trying to nail me and the best you can come up with is this juvenile stuff which addresses itself to anything but the debate e.g. my argument can't possibly be right if you have found a grammatical or spelling mistake, and you call me pathetic, I had to check whether e.g. had a full stop after each letter, is that what you are reduced to ? Is that what you call debate ?

This is like being pursued by a petulant child who simply can't accept defeat, you and I know what we are referring to, can't you find the courage to talk about it ? After all it seems like ages since you claimed to have " broken my brain " and of course " ran rings round me "

BTW do you often send 3,4,5, comments to the same person on a daily basis, or is it just me. Surely some folk must by now, be wondering what this obsession is about, where are the right wing seekers after truth ? What are you afraid of ?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

c4' well done to you and Don. the Lib. Dems. are becoming the new right.

I assume that " why do I hate Jews so much" was rhetorical, and before you ask, I never started beating my wife.

Mr Eugenides said...

Just to be clear, Councillor Kelly; you view accusations of expense fraud as "juvenile stuff"?

Are any of the Labour candidates for Renfrewshire Council under investigation for expenses fraud?

Yes or no?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

jackart - 1/ all crime 2/ The US and Israel are threats to peace. 3/ I don't think they ( Israel ) should exist. 4/ I doubt if I would agree with your opinion of what is an ' unstable or unsavoury regime ' 6/ If I thought my grasp of 'real politik' was less than yours I would leave in shame.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

mr - eugenides - are you pretending to be thick ? OK I'll assume you are serious, no I don't consider fraud as juvenile stuff.

I can't answer as to whether any other candidates are accused of fraud, perhaps the police could let you know.

I can say this though if it's any help, I was speaking to a man in the pub who told me that every candidate in Renfrewshire from every party, all forty of them were crooks, and all up to their necks in sleaze.
He compared them ( rather cruelly )to right wing bloggers, I was so upset at this that on my return to my yacht I had trouble sleeping.

RightForScotland said...

Terry,

It is funny you should mention a yacht.

So I ask several distinct questions and you reply with a rant about me being beaten and unable to land a blow? Every question you refuse to answer is a blow landed! Answer the questions unless you have something to hide.

Could you please inform us ignorants which nation state was wiped off the map by Israel?

I am only interested in Renfrewshire, are you telling me that more than just your labour group are being reported?

I post maybe 30 comments a day on a wide range of blogs I just think you are special that's all!

not_saussure said...

Cllr Kelly, I wish you all the best in the forthcoming elections, but wonder if you have any advice for Labour voters in Falkirk West who share your disapproval of homophobia. It seems, unless I'm misinformed, that the Labour candidate there is to be a Mr Dennis Goldie, who appears to have -- or, at least to have had in 2000 -- pretty forthrightly anti-gay views of the sort you rightly deplore in Mormons and SNP types. Do you have any advice for voters in Falkirk West who're opposed to anti-gay bigotry?

Jackart said...

"...I was speaking to a man in the pub who told me that every candidate in Renfrewshire from every party, all forty of them were crooks, and all up to their necks in sleaze.

He compared them (rather cruelly)to right wing bloggers, I was so upset at this that on my return to my yacht I had trouble sleeping"

That's quite a good joke - you are learning to debate. The trick now is not to over do it. Remember it's labour councillors in R.shire who are under investigation, and you are hardly unknown to the standards commission for scotland, are you?

You did, by the way say you think that Israel has no right to exist. That puts you at a nutty extreme of political opinion. All your commie chums might agree, but they're loonies too. The fact is that most moderate reasonable humans (and politicians too)have accepted Israel as a fact and the "two state solution" as the way forward. The Stumbling block? Palestinian intransigence - Hamas is hardly a reasonable organisation with which to do business.

RightForScotland said...

Also Terry, if the allegation is politically motivated to hurt the councillors involved then why is Ronnie Burns included when he is one of those taking the parachute?

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2007/02/13142349/25

t_mann said...

So Councillor, you 'don't think they ( Israel ) should exist'. That is pretty typical of Socialists in general. It amuses me how hatred of Israel seems to be institutionalised in left-wing politics. Just as the left will cheer on any despotic regime, Iran, Syria, Cuba and N.Korea to name but a few, they despise Israel, because it is democratic and (God help us) supported by the US.
No doubt you would be delighted if Israel were to be defeated and we had a quick re-run of the Holocaust.
From this I can only conclude that you (like most of your ilk) are an anti-Semitic, anti-democratic fool, wallowing in the cess-pit of your own hypocrisy.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

not saussure - If I'm to assume that what you and that organ of truth, The Herald says then, I would not support this man. What would you expect me to say ?

Can you show me where SNP members have said that they would not support Fergus Ewing ( supported bigoted fire fighters ) MSP Adam ( of BYU fame ) MSP Cunningham ( anti gay adoption ) Salmond ( in bed with the church on gay adoption ) what are they saying ?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

RFS - I think I've said enough about the settler state of Israel, why not read what I've written about it, are you trying to waste my time again ?

I have no intention of providing the answers to questions that you can find for yourself, that stunt has passed.

You are undone by your arrogance again.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Lots of councillors are known to the standards commission, and have also been investigated for fraud.

I said that Israeli should not exist, correct, you say that makes me nutty, extreme, and a loonie. Well that's a good argument isn't it ?

Do yourself a favour and read it again, I accept Israel as a fact but I think that that is a historical crime against the Palestinians, I accept the two state solution because Israel is too strong with the USA to defeat them but I don't have to like it do I ?

Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah, you call them what you like but they continue the David and Goliath battle against the oppressors. That gives them heroic status to the people they are representing. More power to them.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

RFS - You clearly no nothing about this stuff.

Time will tell if there is anything in this, you will just have to wait.

RightForScotland said...

So which state was it that Israel displaced then? You seem to have missed that answer out. Two state solution? What to the Palestinians think of this plan?

And why will you not provide a simple answer to a simple question. I am a Renfrewshire voter expecting a public office holder to be held to account. As someone has noted elsewhere you said "I can't answer as to whether any other candidates are accused of fraud"; does this mean that you are one of the accused or is it your brutal use of the language letting you down again?

This is not a stunt and it has not passed. This is an allegation of embezzlement against people holding democratic office and the people (the things you claim to care so much about) demand to know.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

t_mann, Yery, Very sad indeed. I don't think Israel should exist because a brutal historic crime was committed against the Palestinians to create Israel, millions of Palestinians have been made refugees because Israel now stands on the land where they stood for thousands of years.

You go on to make shallow assumptions about the left, I don't despise Israel because it's democratic and in bed with the USA, how stupid is that ? I think you know only too well why I despise Israel.

You say I would be delighted to see a rerun of the Holocaust, an ugly poisonous thing to say, a terrible thing to say to anyone, is that what the Holocaust means to you ? to use it like that ? I grew up in a climate after the war where the Jewish people rightly received every sympathy from everyone and that was compounded when I visited Auswich two years ago.

You drag out the same old anti semitic jibe when anyone asks serious questions about what Israel has done and is doing. It wasn't me who described it as worse than Apartheid in S. A. that was Desmond Tu Tu who might know about these things.

Can you imagine the journey that me and millions of others ( many Jews as well thank god ) have been on since the end of the second world war to bring us to a position where we are anti Israel. Anti Israel, anti Zionist, NOT ANTI SEMITIC.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

RFS - Read my last post to e_mann on Israel.

I've commented enough on alleged fraud, stop salivating, get off your butt and do some work, I'm not doing it for you.

Clairwil said...

Mr Kelly,
I understand why you don't wish to name the councillors accused of fraud but could you at least confirm that you're NOT one of them?

Amir said...

Terry Kelly?

Or Kim Jong-Il?

You decide…

If no one can make up their mind, let me propose my own compromise…

Kim Jong-Kelly

I’m so wonely, I’m so wonely, I’m so wonely,... all on my wown!!

Anonymous said...

Obvious question here, have you been questioned by the boys in blue yet Terry?

Seems to be a lot of interweb chatter about alleged dubious dealing with the council, oh and your comments have been picked up by a few people re that subject?

Anonymous said...

Oh for fucks sake lay of the Israel bashing, bloody socialists all the same.

Never met one yet who did not fawn over Islam and do down Israel and all things Jewish.

Put your anti jewish sentiments aside and realise how pig thick you sound, how rascist you sound.

No different to the mad mullahs calling for the death of the jews. Shame on you Terry

not_saussure said...

Cllr Kelly, thank you for a clear and courteous reply. No point, I fear, in asking me about the Nationalists -- I've no interest in their politics, though I assume that, just as individual Labour members and supporters, like you, deplore some of their candidates' views on this, so too do some individual Nationalists.

It seems, though, wrong -- assuming that Mr Goldie's views have been correctly reported -- to suggest that all members or supporters of a party can be assumed to share the views of some of their candidates; you have just demonstrated that very clearly. Clearly it would be a mistake to say that the Labour Party in Scotland must be a load of bigots because the party is willing to endorse a candidate who apparently is a bigot; it just seems likely to equally a mistake to reach such a conclusion about other parties.

Eureka Norway said...

I've just found youre site and think it quite interesting. With Trident, if Scotland were to become independent, you would support the shutdown of nuclear bases in your country? Who do you think should deal with the contaminated facilities at Faslane? And how would you reemploy people there?

Anonymous said...

Xenophobia=
"I despise Israel"
"I don't think Israel should exist"

C4' said...

Councillor, what is your personal opinion of the President of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

clairwil - Leave the rope and the tar and feathers in your shed.

I've already told you as a corrupt Labour politician, I have already accumulated wealth beyond the dreams of avarice.

As I said before about you ' beneath contempt '

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

amir - A rare and original talent, I feel quite humble that you should visit my site.

Perhaps if you found the bottle to identify yourself you wouldn't be so ' wonely ' or maybe you would become even more ' wonely '

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

anon - Why are you anon, I have no respect for people who hide while attacking someone.

Check my comment to clairwil on this post, now go away and leave me to enjoy my ill gotten gains.

One of my reasons for buying this gaff in the Bahamas was to avoid people like you.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

anon - Your rage is clearly false, otherwise you would identify yourself wouldn't you ?

I will stop bashing Israel n.b. not Jews, Israel, when they stop murdering Palestinians, stealing their land and homes and forcing them to become refugees.

Israel is guilty of war crimes and perpertrating apartheid on the Palestinian people.

Your predictable anti semitic jibe is becoming pathetic, are all the Jews who oppose Israel anti semitic, your argument is an untenable saloon bar rant.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

I condemn the nationalists failure to comment on repeatedly expressed homophobia among their elected members, in all my years in the Labour Party I have never come across anyone like Mr Goldie and, if these reports are accurate, his presence is a deep embarrassment to me and the party.

Let me remind you if I may, how this started. Mr. Adam, SNP MSP, has been using his connections as a Mormon to the openly homophobic Mormon, Brigham Young University in America. Students from this odious organisation are brought here in a business arrangement to work in the Scottish Parliament for SNP MSP's I consider this to be a scandal which the SNP as a party have done nothing about.

A motion was put to the Scottish Parliament about this, the motion signed by several MSP's from various parties, among other things accused this organisation of driving students to commit suicide because of their sexuality, strong stuff eh ?

Of all the accusations which have been flying about this I M O is the most disgusting, I say that because a major political party, the SNP should have done something about it and didn't, members of the SNP should have been furiously demanding a stop to this and they didn't.

I accept that any major party will possibly have members who have rather nasty views but the SNP stand condemned for turning a blind eye, what are their members thinking about ?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

I would hope that all the players involved with Faslane would be obliged in law to pay their share of the clean up costs, if any. I don't know enough about the details of nuclear waste to comment much, other than to say I know it's dangerous and lasts a long time.

As far as jobs are concerned, you can create an awful lot of jobs with £100 bn. as well as hospitals, schools and services.

Scotland, I need hardly say will not become independent, people only have to look at the great charlatan Salmond and the rest of the Gnat. crew to realize that they would take the country down the drain in jig time.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

anon - Xenophobia :- ' an undue fear or contempt for strangers or foreigners ' Israel is not a stranger, not a foreigner, not in fact a person, would you like to start again ?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

c4' - I would only comment on him within the context of the middle east in general.

I know that he shares my dislike and distrust of Israel and America and he shares my views about Palestine.

He is being targeted by Bush who is using the nuclear bomb issue as a smoke screen, if Iran was awash with carrots instead of oil Bush and the other corporate gangsters who pull his strings wouldn't even know where it is.

Put his name into 'google' and you get 1.5 million sites so, what is it you want to know about him ?

Will said...

"If I'm to assume that what you and that organ of truth, The Herald says..."

I notice that you are far quicker to believe, and quote, the paper when it's not a Labour figure who's being accused of homophobia. I'm still waiting for that post that discusses gay rights independently of party politics, by the way. And you're still misrepresenting the Adam/BYU link.

And still you accuse others of synthetic anger. It's rich of you, as rich of one of your fellow Councillors' diet, with their double dinners.

Scunnered, o'Aberdein said...

Hi again Terry

Let's try this one again, slightly differently. Would you be happy, 'within the context of the middle east in general', and his recently reported part in that, for the President of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, to have a nuclear carrot, and would you trust him with it?

Reactionary Snob said...

Terry,

You've been causing quite a fuss recently on the blogosphere. If you don't agree that Israel should exist, what is your solution?

RS

fido said...

Terry you are a jew hating prick, a fascist hiding behind the colours of socalism.

Israel has a right to exist,it was there before the islamic world and I am sure will outlast it.

Anonymous said...

What else canwe expect from a jew hater, a socialist who has got hisideas from the "protools of zion"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

Biased, full of bile and petty hate, yeah you really sum up the average labour voter these days

Mr Eugenides said...

I'm slightly surprised, Councillor, that you should be so quick to condemn others for homophobia when you list the Roman Catholic church as one of your "interests".

I wouldn't dream of calling you homophobic just because you associate with homophobes. So why pretend that the SNP are guilty of this?

God knows I don't care for the nationalists much more than you do, but at least pick a charge that will stick. The Nats are guilty of lots of things, but homophobia? Nah.

iLL Man said...

Terry, For the love of bloody Christ, go and learn how to use punctuation. I simply could not read any of that, and it's made me somewhat angry as it means I couldn't be bothered to continue reading.....Is this the plan? English without punctuation tends to verge on being gibberish anyway, who would notice?

Anonymous said...

I will stop bashing Israel n.b. not Jews, Israel, when they stop murdering Palestinians, stealing their land and homes and forcing them to become refugees.

Well thats wrong for a start, Israel has a right to exist. They were the ones attacked - several times in fact by Arabs. Read your history.

Israel is guilty of war crimes and perpertrating apartheid on the Palestinian people.

So what about the kidnapped Israeli soldiers? What about the car bombs and suicide attacks against civilians in Israel?

Your predictable anti semitic jibe is becoming pathetic, are all the Jews who oppose Israel anti semitic, your argument is an untenable saloon bar rant.

Untenable = Terry Kelly

Anonymous said...

man you really are such a fucking moonbat prick.

Anonymous said...

Re Xenophobia - you do not say you despise the government of Israel. Therefore you must despise the all the people no matter what viewpoint they hold.
Unless it is the actual land itself you despise - I can't be bothered to look up what phobia that is.

Clairwil said...

"There is nothing that Labour can say that will change peoples' minds about Labour. There is no point in having a positive campaign because it doesn't wash. There isn't a bit of evidence to suggest that going positive will make any difference. They don't know Jack and they don't like Labour." - Labour Campaign Source.

Terry is this true? Are the people really to be denied the pleasure of a rundown of Labour's achievements over the last decade? Why so shy?

das Leben der anderen said...

What is this "hat gesagt" nonsense?

Do you speak German?

Can anyone take serioulsy a Labour Party member who opposes Trident but advises others to vote Labour?

I cannot.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

ill man - don't believe you.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

mr eugenides - I think you will find I have condemned homophobia wherever I've come across it.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Fido - 1/ No I'm not 2/ No it doesn't 3/ Jew and Muslim ? I hope they both survive.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

scunnered - No, I wouldn't be happy for him to have a nuclear bomb and, no I wouldn't trust him with it.

There are others however who come into the very same category, I wonder if you can guess who they are ?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Will - You could be waiting a long time, I consider my opinions on gay rights to be clear.

I will continue to highlight cases of homophobic bigotry where I think it appropriate, and that includes the SNP's dealings with BYU.

I take it that you mean all councillors in your juvenile joke or is it only some ?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

das leben - What is "hat gesagt" no I don't speak German.

Trident ? You are talking rubbish, absolute rubbish.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

RS - I don't expect Israel to go away because I don't think it should exist, I accept that it's here to stay but justice has to be done by the Palestinians. It should never have been created, it was meant to be done without disadvantage to the indigenous Arab population, does anyone still buy that ?

The best solution possible assuming that the USA continues to support Israel, is a two state solution based on pre 1967 borders and the return of all land and property to it's previous owners.

The return of all refugees and compensation for loss and exile is essential and the decisions Have to be taken by the U.N.

I could go on, but we could be here for ever.

Shotgun said...

Hi Terry,

I was wondering and hope you wouldn't mind expanding on the information you have given on Renfrewshires website; I'll reciprocate if you like?

Is the house you live in a council house or an ex-council house? And how many shares in Transco do you actually own?

To reciprocate, I own my own house and have a mortgage of less than 18k, and it was bought from the council just after I left the forces. It is now worth 200k and I'm quite chuffed. I own a large portfolio in shares, mainly blue chip, but some elctronic.

The reason I ask Terry is because you and Rayleen are allegedly 'socialists' but are home owners, and you at least are a share owner. That sounds very capitalist to me and I just wanted you to confirm or rebut that you are in fact a closet true blue capitalist.

Clairwil said...

Mr Kelly,
I was thinking of investing in some shares in Transco but I'm not sure if I should.

After that Larkhall blast and everything it doesn't feel right. Also I'm a bit worried if my left wing credentials might be undermined by owning shares.

What do you think?

Will said...

"I will continue to highlight cases of homophobic bigotry where I think it appropriate..."

On 13 February the Daily Record reported the case of Jonah Ditton, who was subjected to homophobic abuse by his ex-employers, CP Publishing. He was later sacked for 'not being psychologically balanced'. A tribunal found that he had been unfairly dismissed on the grounds of his sexual orientation and Ditton was awarded £118,309 in damages.

Ditton is from Paisley: your neck of the woods. Yet you have not highlighted this case, not once, not ever.

Do you not think it 'appropriate' to highlight a case of homophobic bigotry in the workplace, not even to cheer a success in our tribunal system? Or is this more hypocritical hot air?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

will - Will any of your blogging friends read this and conclude like me that you are not making much sense ( there's a challenge for them to tell the truth )

There are approx. 200,000 people in and around Paisley and I don't even read the Daily Record, I'm not surprised that you do though.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Shotgun - By your silly definition anyone who doesn't keep their spare cash under the bed can't be a socialist, brilliant. Were you in army intelligence by any chance ?

I'm not interested in your house and I know almost nothing about shares, in fact I don't even know what an elctronic share is. You forgot about my yacht and Bahamas pile, all got by political corruption of course.

Clairwil said...

Mr Kelly,
You ignoring me like this really is very ill-mannered. I was merely trying to draw on your share dealing expertise.

How are the shares doing?

Shotgun said...

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Shotgun - By your silly definition anyone who doesn't keep their spare cash under the bed can't be a socialist, brilliant. Were you in army intelligence by any chance ?


I did work with the int corps once or twice, but wasn't in the int corps...too much prissy desk work.

No I don't think the spare cash should be shoved under the bed, but then again I don't make a big thing of being a socialist do I?

I'm not interested in your house and I know almost nothing about shares, in fact I don't even know what an elctronic share is.

No Terry, the hares are in elctronics companies stocks. I did very well out of Amstrad which I bought at 27pence just after Sugar, that well known New Labour supporter, bought back the company and they have done very well.

You forgot about my yacht and Bahamas pile, all got by political corruption of course.

You said that not me.

I was just wondering because surely if you are a socialist you shouldn't own your own house, and especially not if it was bought under the RTB scheme which was the mastermind of Thatcher.

Admit it Terry, you won't answer will you? You do live in an ex-council house don't you? There's nothing to be ashamed of.

What did you work at up till now to amass this 'spare cash' BTW Terry? Just curious.

Councillor Seamus Ryan said...

Terry, just came across your Blog and am impressed. Best wishes from a fellow socialist in Ireland.

RightForScotland said...

Terry,

"By your silly definition anyone who doesn't keep their spare cash under the bed can't be a socialist"

What he is asking is whether you took advantage of the Thatcherite "Right to Buy" scheme to purchase your house as research would indicate it is an ex-council dwelling.

We must conclude from your share ownership that you are a Revisionist Socialist otherwise you would be a hypocrite.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

RFS - Wrong again, I don't mind you digging but I'm not doing it for you, you can't be trusted.

When are you going to give me your details, look at my details and match them.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Comrade Ryan - Delighted to hear from you - keep the red flag flying.

Try reading some of the right wing trash who send me comments, it might be an eye opener for you.

Tell others to have a look, these clowns deserve to have a searchlight shone on them.

Will said...

Nice to see such cultural snobbery from a Socialist. Sipped any good champagne lately?

Anyway, I have raised the question about the Ditton case now, and my previous comment provides a link to the story. Now that you have the information, would you care to comment?

If you are serious about LGBT rights and opposing homophobia, you will at least be able to respond to the article.

If you carry on responding to my comments as you do, you will show yourself up not to give a damn about the LGBT community: you will show that you only want to use us in your game of party political muck-raking.

It's very simple, really: if you are serious about opposing homophobia, this story is worth a post on your blog.

Shotgun said...

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Comrade Ryan - Delighted to hear from you - keep the red flag flying.


Yes Terry, keep that red flag flying over your ex council house and thank Comrade Thatcher for it while you are there.

You? Socialist? Don't make me laugh.

Kay Stopforth said...

Anything to say about being exposed as a liar?

http://terrywatch.blogspot.com/2007/03/terry-and-ssp.html

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

kay stopforth - ?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

shotgun - You really are quite fierce aren't you ? you are also a lazy sod aren't you ?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Cllr Terry Kelly said...
will - this really is pathetic, you are flogging a dead horse.

I don't suppose that you have considered that anyone could find any amount of stories about homophobic bigotry that I, and others, even you if you try thinking for a change, haven't written about ? think about it.

You actually want to select one incident among countless others and say I haven't said anthing about it therefore etc. etc. desperate or what ?

Wednesday, March 07, 2007 1:19:00 PM

Will said...

"this really is pathetic, you are flogging a dead horse."

I quite agree: this is pathetic. It is pathetic that you should keep your head lodged up your fundament when all I ask for is your take on a report of homophobic abuse suffered by one of your town's citizens. I give you a link to the story as well, but still you say nothing, preferring to stay in your own dark little world.

You oppose discrimination, so why do you remain silent on the real issue - the homophobia of bosses at CP Publishing?

This whole opposing discrimination thing: it's nothing more than empty words from a bitter man, who won't face up to real discrimination because he can't turn it into a party political issue.

If it weren't my community that you were trying to drag into your dark little world, I'd almost feel sorry for you.

Shotgun said...

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

shotgun - You really are quite fierce aren't you ? you are also a lazy sod aren't you ?


What are you talking about? Lazy? I was in the area on business and drove past your house and made sure it was an ex-council house...nice plastic door...suits you...doesn't that make me the opposite of lazy?

105 Greenhill Road, Paisley, PA3 1RD. It was easy to find using a Tom Tom and only a minute out of my way.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Shotgun - With map reading skills like yours we can only be grateful that you no longer have access to military vehicles.

I don't know where you were but it wasn't Greenhill Road, maybe you have mistakenly gone to one of my other properties, I have several you know.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Will - Stop making such a fool of yourself.

Will said...

Terry, answering the points that are actually put to you can be rather rewarding. You should try it some time.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

will - still too long.

Will said...

You're wasted on local government, you should be on the comedy circuit.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

Will - Longer still.

Will said...

Longer still?! It was EIGHT WORDS SHORTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What twisted world do you live in?! Is black white to you?! Is your sky an odd sort of beige-y colour?! Is your grass scarlet?! Is your Earth flat?!

Is there one fact, one simple piece of information about the world we live in, that you can get right and refer to accurately?!

I made a brief stop in Paisley last week, and I detected no sign that I had entered the Twilight Zone, or slipped into some parallel universe in which 12 is greater than 20, so my question is as follows:

When is the mothership caling to take you home?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

will - It just seemed longer ! and this one ?

Anonymous said...

Trident is not a defence, it's a provocation, the cost £100, BN. would more than protect jobs and last but not least, it's evil and immoral, our efforts should be concentrated on international talks through the UN to get rid of such weapons from every corner of the globe with no exceptions, none.

So will you be resigning from the Labour party now that Tory and
Gordon have pushed the Trident renewal upon us for the benefit of their American masters?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

anon - resign ? Your answer to difficulties might be to quit when the going gets tough, mine isn't.

Shotgun said...

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

anon - resign ? Your answer to difficulties might be to quit when the going gets tough, mine isn't.


MP's are resigning and leaving the Labur party in protest; membership i down by mire than 50% since Bliar.

What do you honestly thiunk you can do and why not just admit that you are in it for the influence and snippet of power?

You have no influence at all and are living in cloud cuckoo land.

Do something honourable and resign as a Labour member and councillor and run as an independant, or is it only the coat tails of Labour that ou feel you can do anything? Which is exactly what people like Bliar, i.e Tories, tell you to do.

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