tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post8108868186361673072..comments2023-05-03T08:42:38.592+00:00Comments on Councillor Terry Kelly: WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK MACKAY ANSWER MY QUESTIONS?Cllr Terry Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-53976687507787378082011-04-26T12:27:34.651+00:002011-04-26T12:27:34.651+00:00By Allan on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK MACK...By Allan on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK MACKAY ANSWER MY... on 25/04/11<br /><br />“Seems as if you don't really oppose these charges going up do you?”<br />It seems you are either ignorant of the facts or you are simply another liar or perhaps both.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-9152473561735744062011-04-25T16:11:32.677+00:002011-04-25T16:11:32.677+00:00"The better, and in my opinion the correct, m..."The better, and in my opinion the correct, modern model of regulation – the risk based approach - is based on trust in the responsible company, the engaged employee and the educated consumer, leading government to focus its attention where it should: no inspection without justification, no form filling without justification, and no information requirements without justification, not just a light touch but a limited touch." Brown at the CBI Conference 2005<br /><br />Anon has already posted a link about Mandy's mask slipping.<br /><br />I see the discussion has moved on to whether Labour would have put charges up or whether they just agree with the charges going up. Seems as if you don't really oppose these charges going up do you?Allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13574173214924437278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-8406933411013528952011-04-25T13:58:18.171+00:002011-04-25T13:58:18.171+00:00By Bunty Corridors on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE ...By Bunty Corridors on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK MACKAY ANSWER MY... on 24/04/11<br /><br />These cuts and price rises are the work of the SN/Libdem coalition, none of you liars seem able to admit that, if it wasn’t you who was it?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-35608321936500265172011-04-24T19:28:50.973+00:002011-04-24T19:28:50.973+00:00you didnt vote with the Labour group , you voted w...you didnt vote with the Labour group , you voted with the tories!!! You did however agree with the new concessionary rate. Do you have a drink problem or do you just enjoy lying?Bunty Corridorsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-80890223693129510532011-04-24T14:26:47.655+00:002011-04-24T14:26:47.655+00:00By Anonymous on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK ...By Anonymous on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK MACKAY ANSWER MY... on 24/04/11<br /><br />I voted with the Labour Group to oppose the SNP/Libdem Budget with it’s vicious cuts targeted at the poor, your budget is what caused these price rises, when are you! going to admit it? These cuts and massive price rises’ are yours; the SNP/Libdem coalitions. You are responsible no one else.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-41763823150132225342011-04-24T02:11:56.091+00:002011-04-24T02:11:56.091+00:00Concessionary rate 30% across the board, this has ...Concessionary rate 30% across the board, this has had the biggest increase. Labour made no attempt,(YOU INCLUDED)to oppose it.<br /><br />You STILL have admitted to this YET!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-698101849196328772011-04-23T21:53:37.121+00:002011-04-23T21:53:37.121+00:00I didn't realise that you were just as thick a...I didn't realise that you were just as thick as this. The reality is that you are not that thick it is just that you have been exposed as inept as an opposition Councillor and you are running away from your own shortcomings.<br /><br />The following is the definaition of Dissent from Wilkipedia<br /><br />"Dissent is a sentiment or philosophy of non-agreement or opposition to a prevailing idea (e.g. a government's policies) or an entity (e.g. an individual or political party which supports such policies). The term's antonyms include agreement, consensus (when all or nearly all parties agree on something) and consent (when one party agrees to a proposition made by another).<br /><br />You probably don't know what an Antonym is but it means "a word opposite in meaning to another."<br /><br />Therefore by definition "no dissent" means agreement, consensus and consent.<br /><br />It is very clear that you agreed to the policies put forward regarding new concessionary rates and pitch rises and you are trying now to wriggle your way out of it.<br /><br />You have lost this one Terry.<br /><br />I suggest that you scurry away into your cess pit and lick your woundsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-39780686392222206182011-04-23T19:32:14.721+00:002011-04-23T19:32:14.721+00:00Let’s see now, the SNP/Libdem coalition raised the...Let’s see now, the SNP/Libdem coalition raised the costs of Halls and Pitches (fact) <br /><br />Can you explain how labour’s “inept handling of the economy” took place while being led by Gordon Brown who has just been appointed to a major job with “The World Economic Forum” and is in the running to become the next director of “The International Monetary fund” Do these people know about your analysis of him? You should tell them, I’m sure they would listen to someone of the calibre of you and the SNP. <br /><br />I am happy to let others decide about me voting for the Tory Budget as well as the number of times that the Tories and SNP have voted together in Renfrewshire and Holyrood as well as Tory PM Cameron’s advice to vote SNP, I’m beginning to feel sympathy for you, I’m really a decent chap and I don’t like cruelty.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-15176466543989015892011-04-23T18:13:51.188+00:002011-04-23T18:13:51.188+00:00SNP/LIB DEM Budget 25% increase, tough but realist...SNP/LIB DEM Budget 25% increase, tough but realistic in the current financial climate (due to Labours inept handling of the economy when in power, borrow, borrow, borrow!!!!)<br /><br />Concessionary rate 30% across the board, this has had the biggest increase. Labour made no attempt,(YOU INCLUDED)to oppose it. You know that is the truth. You should resign. Not up to the job Terry Boy!! First you vote for the tory budget then you fail to oppose new concessionary rate. You are great as an ooposition Cllr, The Administration dream !!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-85110669751474449912011-04-23T15:05:50.771+00:002011-04-23T15:05:50.771+00:00By Anonymous on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK ...By Anonymous on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK MACKAY ANSWER MY... at 14:40<br /><br />No dissent means no dissent it does not mean agreement. Is this the kind of Scotland we can expect under the SNP if God forbid they ever get elected? Do you have German relatives by any chance from the 30’s perhaps?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-86169120302248654582011-04-23T14:40:52.689+00:002011-04-23T14:40:52.689+00:00Here's how it works Terry.
Opposition for Dum...Here's how it works Terry.<br /><br />Opposition for Dummies Seminar 1.<br />The administration brings forward proposals, if you don't like them you oppose them.<br />Seminar 2.<br />Then when they bring forward the details of the proposals you have another go at opposing them, if there is no dissent then they are agreed by all. Simples.<br /><br />What's this? Also approved by Labour at General Management, must have a look at this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-13922300144679022352011-04-23T14:29:39.013+00:002011-04-23T14:29:39.013+00:00By Anonymous on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK ...By Anonymous on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK MACKAY ANSWER MY... at 12:51<br /><br />We opposed the SNP/Libdem budget which we knew would lead to such things as rises in the prices of Halls and Pitches.<br /><br />Was it the SNP/Libdem coalition who put up the price of Halls and Pitches or wasn’t it.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-55099779444086939132011-04-23T14:25:12.619+00:002011-04-23T14:25:12.619+00:00By Anonymous on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK ...By Anonymous on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK MACKAY ANSWER MY... on 22/04/11<br /><br />We opposed the SNP/Libdem budget which brought in the cuts and price rises you refer to.<br /><br />Was it the SNP/Libdem coalition which put the prices up for the hire of Halls and pitches or wasn’t it?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-27486892372790854072011-04-23T12:51:34.545+00:002011-04-23T12:51:34.545+00:00Liar liar pants on fire. You did not oppose the RL...Liar liar pants on fire. You did not oppose the RLL business plan. Did you put up an invisible ammendment?????????????? It was agreed by the Board and you know that. Tell that to all the clubs you are lying to!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-91430035345787611672011-04-22T19:22:13.805+00:002011-04-22T19:22:13.805+00:00so when somebody introduces something you don'...so when somebody introduces something you don't agree with, your strategy is not to oppose or raise any comments or move against?? but still argue you opposed it??<br /><br />Things must be bad in KellyWorld.<br /><br />I am sure the poor wee exploited kiddies used for a Labour photo op will wonder why you did not vote against it when you had a chance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-61846161876519970712011-04-22T18:12:46.309+00:002011-04-22T18:12:46.309+00:00Yes.
Did you introduce the cuts and price increas...Yes.<br /><br />Did you introduce the cuts and price increases to halls and pitches?????????????????Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-65838918734824338292011-04-22T16:33:36.579+00:002011-04-22T16:33:36.579+00:00Answer the question Did you oppose the RLL busines...Answer the question Did you oppose the RLL business plan??????????????????????????????????????????????????????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-63137103598545159832011-04-22T13:32:19.841+00:002011-04-22T13:32:19.841+00:00By Ryan C on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK MAC...By Ryan C on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK MACKAY ANSWER MY... at 10:52<br /><br />It’s not working, your lies and desperate attempts to avoid the blame are risible. The facts are that all the hall and pitch price rises and all the other vicious cuts on the poor and most vulnerable are all yours they are all as a result of the SNP/Libdem savage right wing budget which we in the Labour Group opposed. <br /><br />The SNP’s budget, the SNP’s plan, the SNP’s cuts and now it’s the SNP’s lies and attempts to avoid responsibility, liars, cheats and cowards, so what’s new?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-53267222992164726832011-04-22T10:52:29.360+00:002011-04-22T10:52:29.360+00:00It is the job of an opposition part to oppose or o...It is the job of an opposition part to oppose or oject to policy that they don't agree.<br /><br />So Labour either agree with the rises or they didn't do their job.<br /><br />Which is it Terry.<br /><br />I hear that you personally approved the pitch charge rise at the meeting of the Community and Family Care Board on 19/04/11. How do you justify that.Ryan Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-5741161866429517392011-04-22T10:45:33.449+00:002011-04-22T10:45:33.449+00:00By Marty on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK MACK...By Marty on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK MACKAY ANSWER MY... at 09:41<br /><br />“The SNP/LIB DEM coalition put it forward at the council”<br />And if the SNP/Libdem coalition had not put it forward there would not have been any rises. It really doesn’t matter how much you lie and try to avoid your responsibilities, they are your price rises.<br />The “am I wrong” question was rhetorical ya numpty.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-17261771175056541202011-04-22T09:41:54.899+00:002011-04-22T09:41:54.899+00:00I could have sworn it was the SNP/Libdem coalition...I could have sworn it was the SNP/Libdem coalition who raised the charges for pitches and halls, am I wrong about that?<br /><br />The SNP/LIB DEM coalition put it forward at the council and no party objected to it. Therefore all parties including Labour approved it.<br /><br />Therefore in answer to your question. YES YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT THAT!Martynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-77031800140824710372011-04-22T09:35:05.124+00:002011-04-22T09:35:05.124+00:00By Anonymous on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK ...By Anonymous on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK MACKAY ANSWER MY... at 09:19<br /><br />I could have sworn it was the SNP/Libdem coalition who raised the charges for pitches and halls, am I wrong about that?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-1038242682769744732011-04-22T09:31:46.439+00:002011-04-22T09:31:46.439+00:00By Anonymous on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK ...By Anonymous on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK MACKAY ANSWER MY... on 21/04/11<br /><br />I assume I’m still talking to the schoolboy Allan here. Labour did not say “we are intensely relaxed about people getting filthy rich” I remember Peter Mandleson saying “we are intensely relaxed about people getting filthy rich, as long as they pay their taxes” <br />He is not of course the Labour Party he is a member of the Labour Party if you can get your head round that point. <br /><br />Let me try and help you here, would it be fair for me to say that Alex (the spiv) Salmond was speaking for the SNP when he said “we Scots. did not mind Thatcher’s economic policies so much” ? The salient point here is not that you have been made to look silly by misquoting and misappropriating your sources it’s just that you are lazy inexperienced and disingenuous, you need to smarten up son. <br /><br />What about the phrase “light touch regulation” did you forget that one? I asked you to show me how it became Labour’s phrase.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-47798305714631528982011-04-22T09:19:39.781+00:002011-04-22T09:19:39.781+00:00Let's see......did Kapitalist Kelly or comrade...Let's see......did Kapitalist Kelly or comrades oppose or raise objections to the new pitch charges last Tuesday 3 days after Iain Gray (first minister in waiting)cynically used little kiddies for a photo op pledging stuff.......Nope can't see it.<br /><br />Could you explain why you supported the new pitch charges Terry, I'm sure the punters out there would love to know especially the little exploited kiddies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-1074260495729569342011-04-22T09:03:57.554+00:002011-04-22T09:03:57.554+00:00By Marty on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK MACK...By Marty on WHY WON’T THE SNP CANDIDATE DEREK MACKAY ANSWER MY... at 08:54<br /><br />I have already answered these points go and read previous comments.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.com