tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post6702497017042416013..comments2023-05-03T08:42:38.592+00:00Comments on Councillor Terry Kelly: OPPOSITION ?Cllr Terry Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comBlogger94125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-81280275880005317992007-05-11T09:52:00.000+00:002007-05-11T09:52:00.000+00:00cynic - I don't want to be insulting but, do you n...cynic - I don't want to be insulting but, do you need to be so verbose ?<BR/><BR/>Are you trying to bore me into submission ?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-52519764324494850662007-05-11T09:46:00.000+00:002007-05-11T09:46:00.000+00:00red rooster - I doubt if anyone except you lot wil...red rooster - I doubt if anyone except you lot will buy this.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-88326561475049137492007-05-11T00:48:00.000+00:002007-05-11T00:48:00.000+00:00Terry Kelly = HomophobeWhat a vile thing to do.You...Terry Kelly = Homophobe<BR/><BR/>What a vile thing to do.<BR/><BR/>You really are beneath contempt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-91783113621343545002007-05-10T20:13:00.000+00:002007-05-10T20:13:00.000+00:00Terry,Once again you seem to be missing the pointF...Terry,<BR/><BR/>Once again you seem to be missing the point<BR/><BR/>Firstly, my reference to the Political Compass was simply to give you an idea where I stand politically. <BR/><BR/>Secondly, I am pleased to hear that Tommy aparently does not subscribe to the view, that being gay is a sign of "bourgeois degeneracy". It might well have been Trotsky who originally said it but I have it on very good authority that they heard those words from Tommy's rather than Leon's lips; albeit a number of years back. However, you must agree that its not the sort of quote that often arises in daily conversation.<BR/><BR/>Thirdly, this difference of opinion arose because I happened to mention that a change of leadership within the Labour Group was perhaps (over)due. I also suggested that this change might help improve harmony within the group. Clearly a majority of your colleagues were also of the view that it was time for change. Obviously, I did not actually play any part in this coup I simply welcomed the change and I am sure that there many others happy to see that rather than more of the same.<BR/><BR/>Fourthly, you didnt actually address the question as to why you are so guarded when it comes to criticism of the previous administration -or at least its leadership.<BR/><BR/>Fifthly, I said quite clearly I do not take the view "My party right or wrong". Accordingly, if I feel that a Labour politician is in the wrong I will say so. On that theme I for one am glad to see Blair at last tell us that he does intend to go at the end of June. Apart from the fact it is regrettable he ever became leader in the first place, its a pity he didnt go a while back - the election result last week might not have been as disappointing<BR/><BR/>Ruth Kelly and Alan Millburn are only two among others I'd gladly stick on a desert island. <BR/><BR/>Finally, I dont care what credence my comments are given by those who read this blog. I see no need to reveal my identity; at least at this stage. You implore me to "to tell us who you are" - just who do you mean by the collective "us" - those who visit this blog or those who don't share my views regarding the outgoing group leadership? - just wondered. Revealing my identity would probably simply reinforce that what I am saying is far nearer the truth than you would ever care to admit<BR/><BR/>As I have said we'll have to agree to disagree on these issues.The Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13958370275135892604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-69067965186790124952007-05-10T16:57:00.000+00:002007-05-10T16:57:00.000+00:00jim lewis - you seem to have sobered up but, you f...jim lewis - you seem to have sobered up but, you forgot about that time we shot Bambi's mother.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-73676385040784669622007-05-10T16:50:00.000+00:002007-05-10T16:50:00.000+00:00"As I've said before, you bottled it, you accepted..."As I've said before, you bottled it, you accepted Souter's cash, you sold the jerseys"<BR/><BR/>Terry, let's extrapolate a little of your logic. Terry, you invaded Iraq. You took Bernie Ecclestone's money. You let that thieving arse Mandelson back in again and again. Need I go on? This is the nonsense of applying the same logic as you use against Will. The SNP consorting with Souter does not necessarily infer that Will does. Catch my drift?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-79509114545488451642007-05-10T16:31:00.000+00:002007-05-10T16:31:00.000+00:00anon - 'who I am' I have an instinctive distrust f...anon - 'who I am' I have an instinctive distrust for people who hide and, for people who abuse me and hide ? contempt.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-53186775683122144452007-05-10T16:01:00.000+00:002007-05-10T16:01:00.000+00:00break dancing jesus - I only delete abuse and obsc...break dancing jesus - I only delete abuse and obscenities, I don't recall your nom deplume or deleting any songs, I printed the sash once. <BR/><BR/>This is of course the famous Dublin lock out, all socialists know this stuff it's Ireland's version of the Tanks in George Square.<BR/><BR/>'A terrible beauty' WB Yeats.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-55491473299323673422007-05-10T15:27:00.000+00:002007-05-10T15:27:00.000+00:00What reason should I say who I am? What difference...What reason should I say who I am? What difference does that make? You don't know me and even if I had an internet ID linking to a site, you still would not know me.<BR/><BR/>However what I can see of you Mr Terry Kelly smacks of antisemitism, bigotry of the worst kind and petty digs.<BR/><BR/>My sympathys to the poor people who elected you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-83206465825581638442007-05-10T14:21:00.000+00:002007-05-10T14:21:00.000+00:00Terry, here is your victory song!Will you delete i...Terry, here is your victory song!<BR/><BR/>Will you delete it like last time?<BR/><BR/><BR/>In Dublin City in nineteen thirteen<BR/>The boss was rich and the poor were slaves<BR/>The women working and children starving<BR/>Then on came Larkin like a mighty wave<BR/>The workers cringed when the boss man thundered<BR/>Seventy hours was his weekly chore<BR/>He asked for little and less was grante<BR/>Lest given little then he'd ask for more<BR/><BR/>In the month of August the boss man told us<BR/>No union man for him could work<BR/>We stood by Larkin and told the boss man<BR/>We'd fight or die, but we wouldn't shirk<BR/>Eight months we fought and eight months we starved<BR/>We stood by Larkin through thick and thin<BR/>But foodless homes and the crying of children<BR/>It broke our hearts, we just couldn't win<BR/><BR/>Then Larkin left us, we seemed defeated<BR/>The night was black for the working man<BR/>But on came Connolly with new hope and counsel<BR/>His motto was that we'd rise again<BR/>In nineteen sixteen in Dublin City<BR/>The English soldiers they burnt our town<BR/>The shelled our buildings and shot our leaders<BR/>The Harp was buried 'neath the bloody crown<BR/><BR/>They shot McDermott and Pearse and Plunkett<BR/>They shot McDonagh and Clarke the brave<BR/>From bleak Kilmainham they took Ceannt's body<BR/>To Arbour Hill and a quicklime grave<BR/>But last of all of the seven heroes<BR/>I sing the praise of James Connolly<BR/>The voice of justice, the voice of freedom<BR/>He gave his life, that man might be freeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-40472118544766678592007-05-10T14:14:00.000+00:002007-05-10T14:14:00.000+00:00I stand by everything I said about Clairwil, I don...I stand by everything I said about Clairwil, I don't deal with her I stopped dealing with her a while ago, others keep bringing her up.<BR/><BR/>Your last para. seems a bit biased, I have said this before and I'll say it again for your benefit. If someone writes to me in a reasonable way I will respond in a reasonable way, if you read the exchanges you will see that any 'aggressive' exchanges were not instigated by me, you will also find that some regular commenters have burned their boats as far as reasonable dialogue is concerned. <BR/><BR/>Trying to be reasonable with some of those I've mentioned is no longer an option.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-20175989013870442572007-05-10T14:02:00.000+00:002007-05-10T14:02:00.000+00:00Morag - you're a liar.Morag - you're a liar.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-41604480395071359472007-05-10T14:01:00.000+00:002007-05-10T14:01:00.000+00:00anon - 'supposed abuse' I find it difficult to ima...anon - 'supposed abuse' I find it difficult to imagine what kind of person would write this kind of thing without facing me.<BR/><BR/>Is calling me 'scum' abusive ? what are you afraid of ? come out from your hiding place.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-70421199128619389642007-05-10T13:55:00.000+00:002007-05-10T13:55:00.000+00:00anon - 'low blows' I regard it as shameful to call...anon - 'low blows' I regard it as shameful to call people names and not say who you are.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-53788721281733165862007-05-10T13:52:00.000+00:002007-05-10T13:52:00.000+00:00anon - I always try to answer correctly and never ...anon - I always try to answer correctly and never dodge questions.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-53501537719577171682007-05-10T13:49:00.000+00:002007-05-10T13:49:00.000+00:00Cynic - Tommy reckons the quote is probably one o...Cynic - Tommy reckons the quote is probably one of Leon's but he has never said that, in fact some of his best friends etc. Etc. All that stuff about your 'political compass' and your 'right to comment' sounds a bit pompous to me I'm afraid, ( no insult meant )<BR/><BR/>I hope this deals with the 'guardedness' issue. Keep your ID secret if you must, could you tell us why you remain anonymous ? Surely you accept that you will be treated more seriously if you tell us who you are.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-14795734755620911642007-05-10T13:31:00.000+00:002007-05-10T13:31:00.000+00:00Will - because you say something doesn't make it t...Will - because you say something doesn't make it true, I'm not afraid of proof to shut you up because I have concluded that nothing will shut you up.<BR/><BR/>As I've said before, you bottled it, you accepted Souter's cash, you sold the jerseys. <BR/><BR/>Will, you ought to do the decent thing and let 'your' community progress without the embarrassment of you in their corner.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-11316966502397306852007-05-10T13:17:00.000+00:002007-05-10T13:17:00.000+00:00RFS - Is that your response to my last post ? "Lad...RFS - Is that your response to my last post ? <BR/><BR/>"Ladies & gentlemen Mr. Terry Kelly has been elected on the first Ballot" Renfrewshire Chief Executive David Martin May 4th. 07 Linwood Sports Centre. If only you had been there you could have kept him right, or maybe you were there, hiding again of course.<BR/><BR/>You've failed a big test here, I won and you and the rest of the creeps lost, you are not handling it very well are you ?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-50607836150306169232007-05-10T12:36:00.000+00:002007-05-10T12:36:00.000+00:00Cllr Terry Kelly:You wrote that "Clairwil descende...Cllr Terry Kelly:<BR/><BR/>You wrote that "Clairwil descended into poison and bile when she argued with me, she cynically used people with mental handicaps to attack me, she is a shameful character thoroughly disreputable with a tongue like a drunken fish wife, a horrible person."<BR/><BR/>Maybe if you were less aggressive towards people they would be less aggressive towards you. You seem to treat every criticism as a personal attack, responding in what you assume to be the same manner, which just creates a vicious circle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-35172841413472084362007-05-09T23:02:00.000+00:002007-05-09T23:02:00.000+00:00"The rest I've dealt with"That's definitely a lie...."The rest I've dealt with"<BR/><BR/>That's definitely a lie. Whether you're lying to yourself before you pass the lie on to others, or saying this in full knowledge that it's wrong, I don't know. What I do know is that you have never dealt with anything I've said, never challenged any point I've made, never answered any question I've asked, except with your standard series of Neanderthal grunts.<BR/><BR/>All I've ever wanted is some evidence, a quote, a meeting, anything, that shows your stance on gay rights independent of Party Political Nat-bashing. Provide that, and I haven't a leg to stand on. I even gave you an issue to comment on, and you still resorted to your usual evasive manoeuvres.<BR/><BR/>Why are you so afraid of providing the proof that can shut me up?<BR/><BR/>As to the rest of your rambling, Ruth Kelly is still in the Labour Party, as is Alasdair Morrison, as is Dennis Goldie, and yet you stay in it. So any attack you apply to me applies to you. Do you even realise that?Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10978812670312106107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-35463560505543534392007-05-09T22:23:00.000+00:002007-05-09T22:23:00.000+00:00OK I have now read a list of everything Clarewil h...OK I have now read a list of everything Clarewil has written about you.Where are the bits that put her beyong the pale. I cant find them. You don't have many women on your blog do you? There is a word for that. <BR/><BR/><BR/>http://terrywatch.blogspot.com<BR/>/2007/05/all-terrible-things-clairwils-said-to.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-26415234359245896822007-05-09T21:00:00.000+00:002007-05-09T21:00:00.000+00:00Re your supposed abuse - look in the mirror Mr Kel...Re your supposed abuse - look in the mirror Mr Kelly - mr TKMAX AND SEE HOW MUCH YOU DOLE OUT - typical new labour scum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-64752875170723294912007-05-09T18:10:00.000+00:002007-05-09T18:10:00.000+00:00Terry how can you of all people accuse others of s...Terry how can you of all people accuse others of stooping to low blows, just read your own comments towards others.<BR/><BR/>You really are a shamefull little man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-59483108077634235592007-05-09T18:09:00.000+00:002007-05-09T18:09:00.000+00:00I say again TKMax have you ever answered a questio...I say again TKMax have you ever answered a question either correctly or not doged a question?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-68431138462838690862007-05-09T18:08:00.000+00:002007-05-09T18:08:00.000+00:00Comrade TKMax, keep up the good work. The socialis...Comrade TKMax, keep up the good work. The socialist revolution will win in the end comrade.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com