tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post3411128915820955455..comments2023-05-03T08:42:38.592+00:00Comments on Councillor Terry Kelly: POLITICS N STUFF MAY 10 TH.Cllr Terry Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-47810675172136135742007-05-23T15:39:00.000+00:002007-05-23T15:39:00.000+00:00How many times have I heard this, I'll try yet aga...How many times have I heard this, I'll try yet again, I will not get involved with these people because of the way they conduct themselves, I'll argue with anyone but I'm not prepared to get into the gutter to do it.<BR/><BR/>I don't have to be on 'terrywatch' every day I do that through my own site, I have also been informed that the site involves the same small crowd of nasties and they only seem to talk to each other.<BR/><BR/>I disagree with people all the time, you included, I don't censure anyone who is prepared to argue without personal abuse and filthy language, my family and friends read my site and I'm not prepared to stoop so low that I would have to hide behind anon or a false name.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-20042284032628862372007-05-23T11:03:00.000+00:002007-05-23T11:03:00.000+00:00In your original post you write:"The blog sites ou...In your original post you write:<BR/><BR/><I>"The blog sites ought to be looked at with a view to cleaning these diseased individuals out."</I><BR/><BR/>If you "clean" the individuals out from their blog sites you are removing their right to express their views and their right to speak freely. You are censoring them. You are calling for them to not be allowed to make their comments and to make their case. The reasoning for the censorship seems to be that you don't agree with them.<BR/><BR/>Also, you have referred to TerryWatch in some of these comments as a hate site (including in a response to me). Someone else may have come up the phrase, but you have certainly used it yourself. <BR/><BR/>Ultimately, if you have the courage of your convictions, you should want those who disagree with you to express their opinions in whatever manner or medium they chose. Because if your opinions are correct, you should have no problem with refuting their arguments at all. <BR/><BR/>If I was you I would be on TerryWatch every day, taking them to task about their posts in the comments sections. But to date, I haven't seen anything on that site to indicate you have even been there, let alone try to combat the points and issues they raise.The Nameless Libertarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10358775584645387212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-54019166946780150042007-05-22T16:33:00.000+00:002007-05-22T16:33:00.000+00:00I do not think that people who disagree with me sh...I do not think that people who disagree with me should not be allowed to express their opinions. You can't be seeing right if you think that, are all these comments I get agreeing with me ? Come on now, try harder.<BR/><BR/>I deal with people who disagree with me all the time but I do reserve the right to remove anything that I consider to be beyond the pale and offensive.<BR/><BR/>I have been contacted by many people about 'terrywatch' it wasn't me who called it a hate site, I didn't recognise the term, it was described thus by an honourable opponent from the SSPCllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-66948225117500757782007-05-22T15:43:00.000+00:002007-05-22T15:43:00.000+00:00No, the Nameless One is an adaptation of a moniker...No, the Nameless One is an adaptation of a moniker that a mate gave to me on his blog and that just stuck. <BR/><BR/>I didn't see that story about Salmond but as you relay it it does sound Stalinist. And more than a bit pathetic. <BR/><BR/>I don't hide any bias that I have - I am right of centre, you are left of centre, there is always going to be a lot that we don't agree on. What I object to is your belief that because people do not agree with you, they should not be allowed to express their opinions. <BR/><BR/>Also TerryWatch is not a hate site, but rather a site that does not agree with you. I fear your inability to accept any criticism of your opinions is why you see it as a hate site.The Nameless Libertarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10358775584645387212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-64438134128286712842007-05-15T10:40:00.000+00:002007-05-15T10:40:00.000+00:00nameless - 'Terrywatch' is a hate site set up by a...nameless - 'Terrywatch' is a hate site set up by a mob who tried to damage me using personal abuse of a low filthy kind.<BR/><BR/>I didn't and don't call for people who disagree with me to be kicked out, that's a stupid accusation.<BR/><BR/>Mike Russell SNP wrote a book recently, he was summoned to see Salmond who told him to remove / change, parts of the book which he did not like or he would not be a Holyrood candidate. This damning story was carried in a national broadsheet and Salmond did nothing about it.<BR/><BR/>Was that Stalinist ? see if you can address that and then accuse others. Are you 'nameless because you are ashamed ?<BR/><BR/>If there was a prize for the most unsubtle bias you would win it.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-33679885195115149122007-05-14T16:50:00.000+00:002007-05-14T16:50:00.000+00:00Terry,I agree with your comment about PR and the L...Terry,<BR/><BR/>I agree with your comment about PR and the Lib Dems - it does seem unfair that they should hold the balance of power and policy when they are so clearly in the minority. <BR/><BR/>However I don't agree with your comments about Terrywatch and those blogs that link to it. Terrywatch is quite a restrained affair given some of the other, more extreme sites on the internet. It describes itself as a fan site, and whilst I would argue that it focuses far too much on you and your blog given the breadth and depth of both Scottish and British politics, it generally offers less hysterical and more reasoned debate than occurs on this blog. And those who write on it and link to it are not diseased - they simply disagree with you. <BR/><BR/>You shouldn't be calling for the blog hosts to kick out those who disagree with you. After all, if you are right, then you should be able to argue coherently against the right-wing bloggers (and no, the sniping in the comments on you blog does not count as reasoned debate) and win, rather than trying to restrict their right to freedom of speech. <BR/><BR/>Unless, of course, you are a Stalinist style socialist...The Nameless Libertarianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10358775584645387212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-19102469599245645752007-05-14T14:08:00.000+00:002007-05-14T14:08:00.000+00:00scunnered - look up some of the links on RFS's sit...scunnered - look up some of the links on RFS's site.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-30436349181146259192007-05-11T22:46:00.000+00:002007-05-11T22:46:00.000+00:00Terry'RFS - 'your question' can I plump for keepin...Terry<BR/><BR/>'RFS - 'your question' can I plump for keeping 'terrywatch' and cleansing out the other hate sites.'<BR/><BR/>Which other 'hate sites'? Can you be explicit, please?<BR/><BR/>(BTW, sorry if this post is duplicated. I can never be sure with Blogger.com if posts have 'got there' or not)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-13991325891666788392007-05-11T13:43:00.000+00:002007-05-11T13:43:00.000+00:00RFS - can you contact some of the ladies and gentl...RFS - can you contact some of the ladies and gentlemen that you run with and confirm that 'terrywatch' is by your own admission a 'hate site'Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-36919841683647059242007-05-11T13:39:00.000+00:002007-05-11T13:39:00.000+00:00RFS - 'your question' can I plump for keeping 'ter...RFS - 'your question' can I plump for keeping 'terrywatch' and cleansing out the other hate sites.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-71149071357886134452007-05-11T13:09:00.000+00:002007-05-11T13:09:00.000+00:00Plagiarist - Thank you.Plagiarist - Thank you.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-20456179467501216742007-05-11T12:57:00.000+00:002007-05-11T12:57:00.000+00:00You did not answer my question.Do you want the hat...You did not answer my question.<BR/><BR/>Do you want the hate site to stay or do you want the authors cleansed? You appear to want both, can you clarify this position please?RfShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00222230991354683712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-7148335445111718132007-05-11T12:27:00.000+00:002007-05-11T12:27:00.000+00:00Terry watch is not a hate site, it is a catalogue ...<I><BR/>Terry watch is not a hate site, it is a catalogue of your massive incompetence, your venality and your vitriol.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Well I've followed enough of the threads in Terrywatch to see the spiteful, peurile and downright disgusting language as well as offensive family jibes that the elected (Terrywatch pay heed!) councillor refers to.<BR/><BR/>I've also been most interested to see when an actual apology to the councillor will be forthcoming for the election leaflet mud slinging, which amounted to nothing.<BR/><BR/>So far, nada! <BR/><BR/>Surely with an election just behind us, all parties can accept the result and get on with improving the lot of this parish and country, which is all the country is really asking... But already, petty partisan party politics are holding us back. Let's hope once the administrations are confirmed, they will be positive.<BR/><BR/>Holding our elected officials to account is one thing. Publishing prolonged and inaccurate bile gets us nowhere and Terrywatch would do well to ensure it's own standards are as high as those it would wish the object of it's ire to be.The Incorrigible Plagiaristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14962971938139674420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-55061077496884921042007-05-11T12:17:00.000+00:002007-05-11T12:17:00.000+00:00You haven't directed others to it - because it app...You haven't directed others to it - because it appears you haven't worked out how to link.<BR/><BR/>If you link, you can make comments about peoples blogs or cite facts and opinions showing where they came from. (I'm talking about links in posts, not the pathetic collection of partisan and parochial chums in your sidebar).<BR/><BR/>By "directing" people to my site, I suspect you mean saying "go read the blogs of the reactionary idiots".<BR/><BR/>That doesn't count.<BR/><BR/>We got you to use paragraphs and a spellchecker, now please use the hyperlink.Jackarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04477130724830922566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-6645453865928657592007-05-11T11:10:00.000+00:002007-05-11T11:10:00.000+00:00jackart - I've read your site and I direct others ...jackart - I've read your site and I direct others to it, need I say more ?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-17910789909384760612007-05-11T11:01:00.000+00:002007-05-11T11:01:00.000+00:00this is a load of SNP drivel. No, It's a reasonab...<I><BR/>this is a load of SNP drivel. <BR/></I><BR/><BR/>No, It's a reasonable view shared by many of the voters of this parish.<BR/><BR/><I><BR/>About the Salmond for first minister ?<BR/>If I had been an SNP candidate I would have had his name removed, those ( all of them ) who didn't, are spineless lackeys.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>To late to change sides now Terry, but you got in behind your red rossette anyway.<BR/><BR/>If I may use one of your own explanations for you though. There are many debates within a political party and once consensus is reached all the party members abide by it. So, no spineless lackeys. Loyal party members going with the consensus. You can't admire it in your own party then despise it in others, that would be hypocritical.The Incorrigible Plagiaristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14962971938139674420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-80108703439138290872007-05-11T10:47:00.000+00:002007-05-11T10:47:00.000+00:00Your crowing does you no credit. I think you're a ...Your crowing does you no credit. I think you're a buffoon to be pitied, and laughed at but who doesn't really bother me. This post however, and your subsequent comments highlight more eloquently than ever before your nasty, bigoted, spiteful nature. That a man like you could run for office is a terrible indictment of the Labour party.<BR/><BR/>Terry watch is not a hate site, it is a catalogue of your massive incompetence, your venality and your vitriol. You are merely being hoisted on your own petard.Jackarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04477130724830922566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-29690634258517235452007-05-11T10:34:00.000+00:002007-05-11T10:34:00.000+00:00anon - enlightened unbiased analysis - well done.anon - enlightened unbiased analysis - well done.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-53350889224167198042007-05-11T10:32:00.000+00:002007-05-11T10:32:00.000+00:00RFS - Are you ever going to say something original...RFS - Are you ever going to say something original ? are you not bored ? I am.<BR/><BR/>I've said before you and her deserve each other.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-4601096718745524862007-05-11T10:30:00.000+00:002007-05-11T10:30:00.000+00:00liarsexposed - did you all collude in this poison ...liarsexposed - did you all collude in this poison ?<BR/><BR/>Will must be proud of you.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-13933603253144806462007-05-11T10:27:00.000+00:002007-05-11T10:27:00.000+00:00ken sitas - you and the others who have organised ...ken sitas - you and the others who have organised this are lying cowards, you are exploiting the gay issue to attack me, all of you are cntemptable.<BR/><BR/>I'm glad you are SNPCllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-36775398513755876782007-05-11T10:24:00.000+00:002007-05-11T10:24:00.000+00:00anon - yet another lying cowardanon - yet another lying cowardCllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-29510191283834611202007-05-11T10:23:00.000+00:002007-05-11T10:23:00.000+00:00anon - how many lying cowards are there in your mo...anon - how many lying cowards are there in your mob ?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-29321283540245113842007-05-11T10:22:00.000+00:002007-05-11T10:22:00.000+00:00Anon - I regard anyone who writes this stuff anony...Anon - I regard anyone who writes this stuff anonymously as a despicable coward. You lot can't get much lower can you ?<BR/><BR/>Do you think anyone might question why you all did this at the same time ? You are a bunch of lying thugs, exploiting the gay community is pretty bad, what kind of people are you ?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-84879840006143514702007-05-11T10:15:00.000+00:002007-05-11T10:15:00.000+00:00anon - ham fisted collusion from a bunch who are q...anon - ham fisted collusion from a bunch who are quite happy to exploit and use the gay community, Will, shame on you.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.com