tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post8661996562099648019..comments2023-05-03T08:42:38.592+00:00Comments on Councillor Terry Kelly: I HOPE ROSA PARKS IS LOOKING DOWN ON AMERICA TOMORROW.Cllr Terry Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-54244354220057720292008-11-10T14:24:00.000+00:002008-11-10T14:24:00.000+00:00(The) 13:40I’m sorry you find this objectionable b...(The) 13:40<BR/><BR/>I’m sorry you find this objectionable but, I have already explained why I regard McCain as a war monger and Mr. Duff is trying to take the argument into a convoluted semantic discussion, he enjoys this type of thing because it gives him the chance to massage his ego but I’m not going to oblige. <BR/><BR/>I regard McCain as a war monger because that is his reputation he has always portrayed himself as a ‘hawk’ on military matters and he cranked up the ‘gung ho’ rhetoric throughout the recent campaign. <BR/><BR/>He continually tried to label Obama as weak on terror while he was the strong man; I find it difficult to believe that anyone who followed the election would see it differently. <BR/><BR/>That’s my position and if doesn’t suffice then I’m sorry but, I don’t have the time or the inclination to indulge Mr. Duff.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-34589274783971630412008-11-10T13:40:00.000+00:002008-11-10T13:40:00.000+00:00"Why do I need to provide you with evidence? I reg..."Why do I need to provide you with evidence? I regard McCain as a war monger, that’s how I see him"<BR/><BR/>Sorry to interject, but I find this style of argument a bit objectionable. It opens the door to saying ludicrous things about whoever you like, with no need to back up assertions with evidence. What's the use in debating a point like that?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08901465979716092046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-61865793242885345092008-11-10T13:08:00.000+00:002008-11-10T13:08:00.000+00:00(Daniel Dravot) 08:29I don’t believe you; I think ...(Daniel Dravot) 08:29<BR/><BR/>I don’t believe you; I think it is the colour of his skin that makes you angry. <BR/><BR/>You could have chosen to ignore it but you decided to try to ridicule him, you are a bit obvious, crawl back under your stone along with the other “good ole boys”Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-12173014347905249272008-11-10T13:01:00.000+00:002008-11-10T13:01:00.000+00:00(David Duff) 09/11/08I do not concur with your ass...(David Duff) 09/11/08<BR/><BR/>I do not concur with your assertion that you are not endeavouring to give the impression of superiority’ nor do I acquiesce with your jibe that I have an innate sense of bemusement, nor am I subordinate in any way, certainly not to you, that would be intolerable. <BR/><BR/>Like you I am delighted to permit observers to diagnose your objectives. <BR/><BR/>“we have established” have ‘we’ indeed ? is that because you say so ? <BR/><BR/>“Now, does that make you superior or inferior” <BR/>I don’t find these terms agreeable at all but, juxtaposed with you, I would have to go for the former.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-86538491833823114472008-11-10T08:29:00.000+00:002008-11-10T08:29:00.000+00:00"The colour of his skin seems to rankle with you, ..."The colour of his skin seems to rankle with you, would that be correct ? "<BR/><BR/>Absolutely not Councillor, what does rankle is the mass hysteria of the press and the American people.<BR/><BR/>That somehow, Barack being "black" and elected is some sort of "miracle", whilst completely ignoring the fact that his mother is a white woman. So, what does constiture someone being black, half-black or even slightly black?<BR/><BR/>The press also choose to ignore history. Barack is not the first mixed-race President. Warren Harding had two black grandparents.<BR/><BR/>Personally, it makes no odds to me. I'm not American and have no desire to ever live there. What the Americans do is entirely their business.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-85152430871543992652008-11-09T19:35:00.000+00:002008-11-09T19:35:00.000+00:00"Your attempts to appear superior are risible."No,..."Your attempts to appear superior are risible."<BR/><BR/>No, no, Councillor, I am not attempting to appear superior, I am simply me. I think it is yet another example of your inherent confusion because it is your obvious sense of inferiority, whether deserved or not I leave to others to judge, that leads you to assume that I am attempting to be superior.<BR/><BR/>So, we have established that you have no proof to substantiate your claim that McCain is a "warmonger". Now, does that make you superior or inferior, do you suppose?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-56284824304440930372008-11-09T17:06:00.000+00:002008-11-09T17:06:00.000+00:00(David Duff) 08/11/08Why do I need to provide you ...(David Duff) 08/11/08<BR/><BR/>Why do I need to provide you with evidence ? I regard McCain as a war monger, that’s how I see him, <BR/><BR/>You have a problem here, I am prepared to print your drivel but you can’t make me take you seriously. Your attempts to appear superior are risible.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-39536384191552170172008-11-08T20:25:00.000+00:002008-11-08T20:25:00.000+00:00"Can you provide any evidence ...?"Take that as a ..."Can you provide any evidence ...?"<BR/><BR/>Take that as a 'no', shall I?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-82234362787990432242008-11-08T19:24:00.000+00:002008-11-08T19:24:00.000+00:00(Daniel Dravot) 09:28The colour of his skin seems ...(Daniel Dravot) 09:28<BR/><BR/>The colour of his skin seems to rankle with you, would that be correct ? <BR/><BR/>Do you have a carefully ironed white hood and gown in your cupboard. Just waiting for the good ole days to return ?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-83088205630397131322008-11-08T09:28:00.000+00:002008-11-08T09:28:00.000+00:00Hate to break this to you, but there was a US Pres...Hate to break this to you, but there was a US President with black ancestry long before Obamalamadingdong was a glint in the Masai warrior's eye.<BR/><BR/>Not telling yet, but consider it homework to find out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-33183103874749584332008-11-07T22:26:00.000+00:002008-11-07T22:26:00.000+00:00"Words, words, words", as that gloomy Dane was won..."Words, words, words", as that gloomy Dane was wont to complain, but they do matter, you see, particularly when politicians, like you, use them. If you use them deliberately incorrectly then you are on the way to falsehood. If you use them incorrectly through ignorance or carelessness it indicates a combination of stupidity, laziness and mental confusion.<BR/><BR/>For example, you wrote, apropos my writing style, that "no one speaks like this". Indeed, that is almost always true, but I was not *speaking*, I was *writing*.<BR/>.............................<BR/><BR/>"How often do I need to explain it? A war monger enjoys war, likes conflict, wants to go to war, do you get that ?" <BR/><BR/>Can you provide any evidence that Sen. McCain, a serviceman of proven courage in war, matches the description you offer above? And I do mean evidence, Councillor, you know, quotations or recordings, that sort of thing. I really must insist on it because you are somewhat prone to making assertions of a libellous nature without ever backing them up (see, Duke of Edinburgh, passim).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-12665807441370317242008-11-07T17:44:00.000+00:002008-11-07T17:44:00.000+00:00(David Duff) 13:37“what will you call him? “ Mr. P...(David Duff) 13:37<BR/>“what will you call him? “ <BR/><BR/>Mr. President. <BR/><BR/>"Do forgive me, Councillor, but your skills as a re-educator, or even, dare I say, as an educator, are less than impressive. In despair at drawing forth from you a sound definition of what constitutes” Etc. <BR/><BR/>I digress but, is there a reason why you write such drivel ? are you trying to impress, no one speaks like this.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-85041563882712715522008-11-07T17:33:00.000+00:002008-11-07T17:33:00.000+00:00(Daniel Dravot) 06/11/08How often do I need to exp...(Daniel Dravot) 06/11/08<BR/>How often do I need to explain it? A war monger enjoys war, likes conflict, wants to go to war, do you get that ? <BR/>That is not Blair, Believe me BTW I’m no fan of his.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-78043754805029341252008-11-07T13:37:00.000+00:002008-11-07T13:37:00.000+00:00Do forgive me, Councillor, but your skills as a re...Do forgive me, Councillor, but your skills as a re-educator, or even, dare I say, as an educator, are less than impressive. In despair at drawing forth from you a sound definition of what constitutes a "warmonger" I have turned to the OED:<BR/><BR/>"warmonger: noun; a sovereign or political leader or activist who encourages or advocates aggression or warfare towards other nations or groups."<BR/><BR/>So when, as he says he intends to do, 'Oprah' Obama sends in the marines, or some similar action, to the Hindu Kush inside Pakistan, what will you call him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-64990046896937172022008-11-06T22:27:00.000+00:002008-11-06T22:27:00.000+00:00So by your definition, Blair is not a warmonger. I...So by your definition, Blair is not a warmonger. In fact he so dislikes war that he must really have wrestled with his conscience when he sent our troops into Kosovo, Sierra Leone, Afghanistan and Iraq.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-4336758495222737952008-11-06T18:26:00.000+00:002008-11-06T18:26:00.000+00:00(Bob Flowers) 17:02Not much of an answer Bob. Do I...(Bob Flowers) 17:02<BR/>Not much of an answer Bob. Do I take it you agree with me ? I of course agree that you don’t need a uniform to serve one’s country.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-19297369989687289562008-11-06T17:02:00.000+00:002008-11-06T17:02:00.000+00:00"“Our brave soldiers” wearing a uniform does not m..."“Our brave soldiers” wearing a uniform does not make you brave, they used to shoot soldiers for cowardice, and some of them had lovely uniforms.<BR/><BR/>“I have served my country before” Not in the Intelligence Corp. I take it. "<BR/><BR/>Once again, Councillor you bluster and blather and assume rather too much.<BR/><BR/>One does not have to don a uniform to serve one's country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-14118809205665459442008-11-06T16:45:00.000+00:002008-11-06T16:45:00.000+00:00(David Duff) 15:32“Always happy to be re-educated ...(David Duff) 15:32<BR/>“Always happy to be re-educated by you” <BR/><BR/>I’m quite capable but, some tasks are way beyond me, and most others I suspect. To be re-educated you would first have to be educated. <BR/><BR/>Advocating an attack on another country does not make you a war monger, enjoying that attack, relishing the conflict, that’s what makes a war monger, I really don’t think you have grasped this. <BR/>Is it stupidity or dishonesty ?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-23423206304661947692008-11-06T15:32:00.000+00:002008-11-06T15:32:00.000+00:00"It does not make Obama a war monger, perhaps you ..."It does not make Obama a war monger, perhaps you don’t understand the term."<BR/><BR/>Always happy to be re-educated by you, Councillor, but advocating an attack into the territory of another country must be described by some term or another - what is it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-35910950680669686182008-11-06T12:10:00.000+00:002008-11-06T12:10:00.000+00:00(Daniel Dravot) 10:47“By their friends shall ye kn...(Daniel Dravot) 10:47<BR/><BR/>“By their friends shall ye know them” <BR/><BR/>Is your middle name McCarthy by any chance ? Do you find Obama’s name offensive ? <BR/><BR/>You are creating a nauseating picture of yourself.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-79950788847681899842008-11-06T12:03:00.000+00:002008-11-06T12:03:00.000+00:00(Bob Flowers) 06/11/08“In YOUR opinion democrats a...(Bob Flowers) 06/11/08<BR/>“In YOUR opinion democrats are better than republicans” <BR/>you are getting there at last that is my opinion. <BR/><BR/>“Putting one's country before all else” That’s what millions of patriotic Germans did in the Second World War – it’s the road to dictatorship.<BR/><BR/>“Our brave soldiers” wearing a uniform does not make you brave, they used to shoot soldiers for cowardice, and some of them had lovely uniforms. <BR/><BR/>“I have served my country before” Not in the Intelligence Corp. I take it. <BR/><BR/>There are young Israeli’s in prison today because they refuse to join the Army in protest at the treatment of the Palestinians, many young Americans did the same over Vietnam, Quakers, Conscientious Objectors, and Pacifists did likewise before that. In My Opinion they were very brave indeed.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-67199953178505115912008-11-06T11:43:00.000+00:002008-11-06T11:43:00.000+00:00(David Duff) 05/11/08It does not make Obama a war ...(David Duff) 05/11/08<BR/><BR/>It does not make Obama a war monger, perhaps you don’t understand the term.<BR/><BR/>A president McCain would have made the world a more dangerous place, that’s one of the reasons he was so strongly rejected. <BR/><BR/>Perhaps you should have listened to some of McCain’s recent rhetoric, then you wouldn’t make such stupid statements, or maybe I’m being too kind to you.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-32352852266825736402008-11-06T10:47:00.000+00:002008-11-06T10:47:00.000+00:00You will be delighted to know that Barack Obama-ra...You will be delighted to know that Barack Obama-rama-lama-ding-dong, appoined Rahm Emanuel as his Chief of Staff.<BR/><BR/>Rahm Benjamin Emanuel, dual-citizen Israeli-American, whose father was a member of the Irgun in the 1930s and 40s, a terrorist organisation that murdered British troops in Palestine.<BR/><BR/>By their friends shall ye know them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-44238157773023409722008-11-06T07:36:00.000+00:002008-11-06T07:36:00.000+00:00"The democrats are better than the Republicans and..."The democrats are better than the Republicans and Labour are better than the other parties which means that putting them before other parties to govern is putting the country first."<BR/><BR/>Councillor, I think it is you wo us confused. In YOUR opinion democrats are better than republicans. In the republican's opinion, they are better than democrats. Do you see?<BR/><BR/>It is only political opinion. Putting one's country before all else puts politics to one side. Do you think our brave soldiers would refuse to do their duty because they don't like Gordon's politics?<BR/><BR/>No. They put THEIR country first and do the duty they have signed up to do.<BR/><BR/>I'm not confused at all. I have served my country before and would do so again regardless of who resides at No10.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-26789457895506638322008-11-05T18:46:00.000+00:002008-11-05T18:46:00.000+00:00"McCain the war monger? He loves it, it defines hi..."McCain the war monger? He loves it, it defines him."<BR/><BR/>Given his experience of war I doubt somehow that he is madly keen to engage in another.<BR/><BR/>However, my question, which you avoided with your usual, er, dexterity, was not concerned with McCain but Obama. *He* is the one advocating strong attacks into Pakistan which Bush has begun on a small scale.<BR/><BR/>So what does that make Obama?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com