tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post8549013560353811159..comments2023-05-03T08:42:38.592+00:00Comments on Councillor Terry Kelly: THE TARTAN TORY BUDGETCllr Terry Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-30806048357498686322008-02-20T18:15:00.000+00:002008-02-20T18:15:00.000+00:00(Anonymous) 14:54The SNP voted to bring in a Tory ...(Anonymous) 14:54<BR/><BR/>The SNP voted to bring in a Tory Govt. that the Scottish people didn’t want and we then suffered for approx. 20 Yrs. <BR/><BR/>In every election after that the Scottish people treated the Tories with contempt and still do. <BR/><BR/>That’s what SNP principals are all about and parties ruling on a minority of all votes cast is hardly new. <BR/><BR/>It smacks of desperation in you argument though. Labour here in |Renfrewshire won the majority of the popular vote and are not in power, thems the rules.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-65403132759102325132008-02-20T14:54:00.000+00:002008-02-20T14:54:00.000+00:00They are not my party and you continue to pander t...They are not my party and you continue to pander to the nationalist element you claim to despise with talk of the "democratic deficit".<BR/><BR/>They may have brought down a government but the replacement party won a 44 seat majority - a clear indication of the will of the people. Should the SNP have voted to keep a party in power that the public so dearly wanted to get rid of?<BR/><BR/>And when the vote was counted the Tories were only 10% behind Labour in Scotland. Indeed using your own current standards for attempting to delegitimise the SNP more people voted for other parties in 1979 in Scotland than voted for Labour. So in actual fact the SNP vote against Labour in the Commons was a direct reflection of the will of the Scots people was it not?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-44040750322628754412008-02-19T18:16:00.000+00:002008-02-19T18:16:00.000+00:00(Anonymous) 17/02/08The SNP brought down the Labou...(Anonymous) 17/02/08<BR/><BR/>The SNP brought down the Labour Govt. knowing that the Tories would win even although they wouldn’t win in Scotland.<BR/><BR/>They brought us Thatcher, they are traitors. I know it’s hard for you to accept what was done but it’s true, it was your party who betrayed Scotland and they are doing it again now.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-48097725755502094792008-02-17T22:04:00.000+00:002008-02-17T22:04:00.000+00:00So the Labour Government of 1979 was popular then?...So the Labour Government of 1979 was popular then? Surely it is you trying to re-write history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-36045698241059697612008-02-17T16:43:00.000+00:002008-02-17T16:43:00.000+00:00whats the matter Terry, ban posts that cut too nea...whats the matter Terry, ban posts that cut too near the truth?<BR/><BR/>thousands of Iraqi children dead because of Labour policies too much like the real world?<BR/><BR/>poor soul.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-22758629653095924282008-02-17T13:25:00.000+00:002008-02-17T13:25:00.000+00:00(Anonymous) 16/02/08A pathetic attempt to rewrite ...(Anonymous) 16/02/08<BR/><BR/>A pathetic attempt to rewrite history and excuse the traitors in the SNP - we will remember and lest we forget we are seeing them at it again today.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-58136540625538338432008-02-17T13:21:00.000+00:002008-02-17T13:21:00.000+00:00(Tea with Thatcher) 16/02/08Rhetorical drivel and ...(Tea with Thatcher) 16/02/08<BR/><BR/>Rhetorical drivel and far too long to say nothing much.<BR/><BR/>I'm happy to let people who can't sleep read it.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-27888458969864394952008-02-17T13:13:00.000+00:002008-02-17T13:13:00.000+00:00(Anonymous) 16/02/08 Correct !(Anonymous) 16/02/08<BR/> Correct !Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-25279712209434585112008-02-17T13:11:00.000+00:002008-02-17T13:11:00.000+00:00(Anonymous) 15/02/08The Town Hall is not viable, T...(Anonymous) 15/02/08<BR/><BR/>The Town Hall is not viable, The museum is not viable, Barshaw Park is not viable etc. but they serve a purpose as does the Apex. <BR/><BR/>Your argument is a typical Thatcherite SNP one, no surprise there then.<BR/> <BR/>The Tories and the SNP “know the cost of everything and the value of nothing”Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-15151618880162160082008-02-17T13:05:00.000+00:002008-02-17T13:05:00.000+00:00(Anonymous) 15/02/08Thatcher and her vicious reign...(Anonymous) 15/02/08<BR/><BR/>Thatcher and her vicious reign caused more indolence than anyone in British history.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-3749911162253194562008-02-16T15:10:00.000+00:002008-02-16T15:10:00.000+00:00The SNP did not give us Thatcher. The electorate ...The SNP did not give us Thatcher. The electorate did. And attempting to blame the SNP is to ignore just how deeply unpopular the Labour government had become.<BR/><BR/>And thanks for making an earlier point. The Labour party had spent the '80's stoking nationalist sentiment with "democratic deficit" and muttering about Thatcher.<BR/><BR/>I think I gave you enough rope here!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-52958457921355793742008-02-16T12:24:00.000+00:002008-02-16T12:24:00.000+00:00Dear TerryIt would seem there is some disagreement...Dear Terry<BR/><BR/>It would seem there is <A HREF="http://terrywatch.blogspot.com/2008/02/renfrewshire-budget.html" REL="nofollow">some disagreement</A> with your unique take on the budget here. I hope you are not spinning.<BR/><BR/>As for Thatcher, what are your views of this <A HREF="http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/09_02/thatcherPA1309_468x763.jpg" REL="nofollow">heartwarming picture</A>? Should we take it you are no fan of Gordon Brown then since he obviously promotes such an alliance?<BR/><BR/>Or how about this <A HREF="http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44219000/jpg/_44219433_partyleaderspa203.jpg" REL="nofollow">picture</A>? Another <A HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/scotland/7079470.stm" REL="nofollow">alliance</A> you must be appalled at. You will be tearing up your Labour membership card now I take it?<BR/><BR/>And let's just look at that Parliamentary budget vote.<BR/><BR/><I><B>1. The Tories voted for it because it delivered 1000 police officers - which, er, the Labour party proposed in their own amendments and the LibDems supported.<BR/><BR/>2. The Tories voted for it because it delivered business rates cuts to boost the economy and create jobs. The Labour party didn't oppose this and are not against in principle. The LibDems also had this as a policy.<BR/><BR/>3. The Tories voted for it because it delivered a national drug strategy. Labour or the LibDems aren't opposed to that - are they?</I></B> <BR/><BR/>So that looks like consensus to me rather than Tory policies.<BR/><BR/>In contrast.<BR/><BR/><I><B>1. The Tories supported the Labour Government in their desire to invade Iraq with all the accompanying death and desctruction that followed despite the warnings such an ill-prepared action would do so. The SNP opposed it.<BR/><BR/>2. The Tories supported the Labour Government's plans to spend billions on Trident instead of public services. Something the STUC is firmly against. The SNP opposed this waste of money on imperial toys for the boys.<BR/><BR/>3. The Tories have seen their PFI policy adopted by the Labour party and the subsequent leagage of money from front line services to pay for repayments. It's actively opposed by UNISON. The SNP want to squeeze it out the market place.</I></B><BR/><BR/>So tell me Terry, after all that why do you so blindly support Labour's right-wing alliance with the Tories over the SNP's consensual approach?<BR/><BR/>Just what will it take for the Labour party to do before you leave them behind? I'm sure many people would like to know as the evidence of Labour's dalliance with what you would call the excesses of Tory policies is quite clear.<BR/><BR/>Or is it just the Labour party that is important to you?<BR/><BR/>One other question Terry.<BR/><BR/>Nothing lasts forever - not even an SNP Government will - which begs the question of which way you will fall when the Tories (inevitably) win at Westminster again.<BR/><BR/>Will you be a supporter of the sovereignty of the people of Scotland or a supporter of Westminster sovereignty - thus putting you into alliance with the Tories...again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-55022731113009858642008-02-16T12:00:00.000+00:002008-02-16T12:00:00.000+00:00The SNP in opposition opposed the Council Magazine...The SNP in opposition opposed the Council Magazine, opposed the New Build Council Chambers, opposed Junkets, opposed the Street Warden's Service, what are they now doing, opp's forgot to say that they opposed McCartin, the great white Bear from Renfrew, Bill 2 faced McGuinnes hated McCartin with a vengeance, now they are all one big happy family with "the bouy" McKay. What a band of spineless people they are.<BR/><BR/>This group has more faces than the town hall clock.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-47097006192112174532008-02-15T20:44:00.000+00:002008-02-15T20:44:00.000+00:00Another interested party also recocgnised that the...Another interested party also recocgnised that the Apex centre was not viable. There is a perfectly good sports centre just a few hundred yards along the road, well used and capble of nmeeting local needs. Why don't you come out to Ralston and compare their facilities compared to Ferguslie Park, you might get a surprise!!!!!!!!!!!!<BR/>Also are you worried that those people who can no longer access the internet through the Digitial Inclusion Project will no longer be able to access your website!! God forbid you have to get out and visit your constituents like the rest of your fellow Councillors, look forward to meeeting you if you venture out of Terry World!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-91217951260202111972008-02-15T18:44:00.000+00:002008-02-15T18:44:00.000+00:00"Margaret Thatcher"How the indolent hate that name..."Margaret Thatcher"<BR/><BR/>How the indolent hate that name.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-80059323849058537782008-02-15T17:30:00.000+00:002008-02-15T17:30:00.000+00:00(Anonymous) 16:50Who are ‘we’ BTW. The labour Govt...(Anonymous) 16:50<BR/><BR/>Who are ‘we’ BTW. The labour Govt. were under sustained attack by the Tories and the right wing media and the SNP joined the Tories to bring them down, Scotland did not want a Tory Govt. as the election showed.<BR/><BR/>They were betrayed by the SNP and suffered under Thatcher because of these traitors, people will never forget what the SNP did, they have no political principals of any kind, and they are ready to do it again. <BR/><BR/>They claimed to be Scotland’s party and when it came to the crunch they gave us Thatcher.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-69012987015517586182008-02-15T16:50:00.000+00:002008-02-15T16:50:00.000+00:00No, what we are saying is that even with the SNP "...No, what we are saying is that even with the SNP "bringing down the government" it was still the electorate in charge.<BR/><BR/>Why did the country not simply return another Labour government? Why did they vote Tory?<BR/><BR/>"Had they not done so, no election, no Thatcher no misery and destruction, They were traitors then and still are"<BR/><BR/>To who? The public clearly relished the chance to vote Labour out so that indicated that they had the general support of the people. Are you saying that they should have supported Labour and denied the people the chance to vote?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-51574006646543517062008-02-15T16:41:00.000+00:002008-02-15T16:41:00.000+00:00(Iris) 14/02/08“You have been ranting about saving...(Iris) 14/02/08<BR/><BR/>“You have been ranting about saving the Apex Centre for ages “ Not true I’ve hardly mentioned it for ages and there is a reason for that. <BR/><BR/>A company called ‘Spark of Genius’ have been negotiating with the council for quite some time to take over the building and provide the community with use. Those negotiations unknown to me or the community activists in Ferguslie ended in failure and this was confirmed only two weeks ago.<BR/><BR/>I had no idea therefore that it was to be closed until I seen the budget paper, I have many gifts but mind reading is not one of them. <BR/><BR/>None of this alters the fact that the SNP refused to spend £400,000 on it while spending £8 m in Ralston/Penilee we would not have done that.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-42432031777499373662008-02-15T15:58:00.000+00:002008-02-15T15:58:00.000+00:00(Anonymous) 14:55The SNP chose the Tories, nothing...(Anonymous) 14:55<BR/><BR/>The SNP chose the Tories, nothing new there then. Had they not done so, no election, no Thatcher no misery and destruction, They were traitors then and still are.<BR/><BR/>“to suggest that only 7 SNP MPs replaced an entire government “ You are either stupid or a liar with this statement.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-52033547535269192512008-02-15T15:51:00.000+00:002008-02-15T15:51:00.000+00:00(Anonymous) 14:25You must be very familiar with it...(Anonymous) 14:25<BR/><BR/>You must be very familiar with it.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-67689557421836866742008-02-15T15:49:00.000+00:002008-02-15T15:49:00.000+00:00(Anonymous) 12:09Neither the SNP nor Labour could ...(Anonymous) 12:09<BR/><BR/>Neither the SNP nor Labour could afford to turn down the £2.3 m as I’ve said before Alex is a (spiv) <BR/><BR/>The wardens campaign goes on just ask the SNPCllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-84675524660492226122008-02-15T15:45:00.000+00:002008-02-15T15:45:00.000+00:00(Anonymous) 10:59I wouldn’t expect the Tories to d...(Anonymous) 10:59<BR/><BR/>I wouldn’t expect the Tories to do anything other than support a right wing budget.<BR/><BR/><BR/>“The Tories were handed that powerful position because Labour decided at the last minute to abstain” The deal had been done long before that.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-62551145174883491892008-02-15T15:25:00.000+00:002008-02-15T15:25:00.000+00:00No comment to make on any of this then? On the To...No comment to make on any of this then? On the Tory vote for Labour pre-2007 on the council? On the wreck the unions made of the country in the '70's? On the decimation of the Renfrewshire area under Labour? On the excessive tax hikes by your administration?<BR/><BR/>All you can come up with is a weak "check" and hope no one notices the hollowness of your argument and hypocrisy of your stance?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-16297885639421232022008-02-15T15:16:00.000+00:002008-02-15T15:16:00.000+00:00(ShrekBall) 09:55Thank you for this, if you didn’...(ShrekBall) 09:55<BR/><BR/>Thank you for this, if you didn’t exist I’d have to invent you.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-64191416531755294742008-02-15T15:05:00.000+00:002008-02-15T15:05:00.000+00:00(Anonymous) 14/02/08I hope this isn’t confusing fo...(Anonymous) 14/02/08<BR/><BR/>I hope this isn’t confusing for you but even if the two missing Labour Councillors and the two Tories had been opposed the cabal would still have won.<BR/><BR/>I merely wanted to point out the enthusiasm that the Tories showed for it. <BR/><BR/>They were clearly among friends as the SNP and Tories cheered each other on, it was just like old times in Renfrewshire and Westminster and Holyrood. <BR/><BR/>What are SNP so called socialists saying about this ? Absolutely nothing, traitors to Scotland.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.com