tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post7665684920024509897..comments2023-05-03T08:42:38.592+00:00Comments on Councillor Terry Kelly: SOUTER & THE SNP - GAY OUTRAGE !Cllr Terry Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-80414814949602597812007-04-07T15:24:00.000+00:002007-04-07T15:24:00.000+00:00Perhaps the SNP will realise at some point that th...Perhaps the SNP will realise at some point that they cant be "All things to all people" forever. <BR/><BR/>They cannot hope to serve the aims of a bigoted paymaster like Souter and at the same time claim to be a radical progressive party fit to govern Scotland.<BR/><BR/>What's the pay-off - turning back the clock on gay rights in an independent Scotland<BR/><BR/>Any gay man, woman or bisexual or indeed anyone of a liberal viewpoint should search their minds as well as their hearts before putting a cross next to the SNP <BR/><BR/>Talk about selling your soul to the devil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-46381342956236306942007-03-30T11:33:00.000+00:002007-03-30T11:33:00.000+00:00fido - your bark is clearly worse than your bite.D...fido - your bark is clearly worse than your bite.<BR/><BR/>Do you not worry that people who might read this will conclude that anyone as angry and confrontational as you should not be hiding.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-91218290398522194552007-03-30T07:23:00.000+00:002007-03-30T07:23:00.000+00:00Bad Terry, go on boy sit.Bark at the nasty zionist...Bad Terry, go on boy sit.<BR/><BR/>Bark at the nasty zionist.Fidothedoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13588552210424845667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-6959327937906523922007-03-23T17:19:00.000+00:002007-03-23T17:19:00.000+00:00Will - You really have lost me.Will - You really have lost me.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-55810263294801524752007-03-23T17:02:00.000+00:002007-03-23T17:02:00.000+00:00RFS - " Yup " This has a hollow ring to it.RFS - " Yup " This has a hollow ring to it.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-78770341354391985612007-03-23T15:31:00.000+00:002007-03-23T15:31:00.000+00:00"is this code for something ?"Who knows? My post h..."is this code for something ?"<BR/><BR/>Who knows? My post has probably triggered a coup d'état in at least one Latin American country. But I intended it to be:<BR/><BR/>1. The truth about my opinion on the RHS, which has now come under scrutiny;<BR/><BR/>2. A warning never to get drunk around tractors;<BR/><BR/>3. A warning never to nut a tea urn, which is what my ex-flatmate would have to have done in order to burn his forehead on one.Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10978812670312106107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-39209179245955114072007-03-23T13:59:00.000+00:002007-03-23T13:59:00.000+00:00" 'Your record' didn't you describe yourself as so..." 'Your record' didn't you describe yourself as someone who doesn't take me all that seriously ? "<BR/><BR/>Yup, and your fixation on my post count is one of the reasons for that.RfShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00222230991354683712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-42127113114388130862007-03-23T13:31:00.000+00:002007-03-23T13:31:00.000+00:00Will - 1 st. para. same stuff.2nd. Para. is this c...Will - 1 st. para. same stuff.<BR/><BR/>2nd. Para. is this code for something ?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-47333886910715716362007-03-23T13:26:00.000+00:002007-03-23T13:26:00.000+00:00RFS - 'Your record' didn't you describe yourself a...RFS - 'Your record' didn't you describe yourself as someone who doesn't take me all that seriously ?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-9329484722886288142007-03-22T19:42:00.000+00:002007-03-22T19:42:00.000+00:00Terry, of all the people to talk about courage, yo...Terry, of all the people to talk about courage, you take the cake, really. Never have I encountered a more spineless character. 'Courage' is just another word to you, you heard someone else talking about it and repeated it, parrot-like.<BR/><BR/>Re the Royal Highland Show. I had a casual job in the catering for it when I was at Uni... it wasn't great but it paid the bills and I had a good time, unlike my flatmate who managed to burn his forehead on the tea urn. Oh, and there was the rumour about the drunken guy who lost his arm playing the fool in a tractor, but that might have been a myth.Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10978812670312106107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-10845798689193440242007-03-22T19:16:00.000+00:002007-03-22T19:16:00.000+00:00"What is your record is 7 or 8 or more posts to me..."What is your record is 7 or 8 or more posts to me in one day ?"<BR/><BR/>Why does this matter to you so much?RfShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00222230991354683712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-51507023762211880902007-03-22T17:09:00.000+00:002007-03-22T17:09:00.000+00:00RFS - " Blind rage " there must be an awful lot of...RFS - " Blind rage " there must be an awful lot of times when you can't help it. <BR/><BR/>What is your record is 7 or 8 or more posts to me in one day ?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-5569051102826916262007-03-22T16:39:00.000+00:002007-03-22T16:39:00.000+00:00Someone who does not let rage so blind them that I...Someone who does not let rage so blind them that I forget the names of those who oppose me?<BR/><BR/>Someone who does not take you too seriously when he can help it?RfShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00222230991354683712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-22567771065895589912007-03-22T15:53:00.000+00:002007-03-22T15:53:00.000+00:00Will - Have some courage, it's not too late. Anyw...Will - Have some courage, it's not too late. Anyway, repetitive and still too long.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-15715599204436168702007-03-22T15:51:00.000+00:002007-03-22T15:51:00.000+00:00RFS - RHS ? You've found your level, do you know w...RFS - RHS ? You've found your level, do you know what you look like when you do this ?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-62943741149335804842007-03-22T13:56:00.000+00:002007-03-22T13:56:00.000+00:00Well, Terry, given your penchant for repeating lie...Well, Terry, given your penchant for repeating lies over and over again, then completely ignoring the truth when it's stuck in front of your nose, I bow to your expertise on mendacity.<BR/><BR/>You're still a coward for hiding from my responses, you're still a liar for accusing me of running away from - well, anything - and you're still a hypocrite for doing both of those at the same time.Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10978812670312106107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-26618729411517199632007-03-22T13:48:00.000+00:002007-03-22T13:48:00.000+00:00"Again, nothing new here except your respect for R..."Again, nothing new here except your respect for RHS and it's way, way too long ! "<BR/><BR/>Will respects the Royal Highland Show? Good for him.RfShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00222230991354683712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-14888382092134048532007-03-22T13:42:00.000+00:002007-03-22T13:42:00.000+00:00Scunnered - A masterpiece of the dissemblers art, ...Scunnered - A masterpiece of the dissemblers art, convoluted and mendacious - the exact same as Will, you've just got to be a gnat.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-75441077920018965052007-03-22T13:33:00.000+00:002007-03-22T13:33:00.000+00:00RFS - I've formed an opinion about you, does that ...RFS - I've formed an opinion about you, does that surprise you ? have you formed an opinion of me ?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-77448489511132789082007-03-22T13:27:00.000+00:002007-03-22T13:27:00.000+00:00Will - Again, nothing new here except your respect...Will - Again, nothing new here except your respect for RHS and it's way, way too long !Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-61205217213029675822007-03-21T23:16:00.000+00:002007-03-21T23:16:00.000+00:00Hi Terry....'What am I to make of RFS saying he wo...Hi Terry....<BR/><BR/>'What am I to make of RFS saying he would apologise to you for assuming you were gay and you not commenting ?<BR/><BR/>Are you really that craven ?'<BR/><BR/>I am at a loss as to what you are really saying on this subject. <BR/><BR/>RFS actually said he would apologise to Will if, having said he thought Will was gay, he had got his facts wrong and this was something he had made up. I saw that as merely being good manners, in offering to apologise for being incorrect, but not for the making any explicit, or indeed inferred, stigmatisation that was never there<BR/><BR/>Will then said 'That there are any openly gay members of the SNP (and I am by no means the only one)...'. I would take that to mean he is saying that he is gay <BR/><BR/>So what is Will to take umbrage about and what might he be running away from?<BR/><BR/>It sounds a bit like someone saying that they would apologise for suggesting you were a clot if you were not, and your then saying that you were as thick as two short planks.<BR/><BR/>Are you suggesting that your next appropriate course of action would be to immediately launch a counter-attack to defend your position, merely to prove that you really are?<BR/><BR/>Please elaborate....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-39020851763082073362007-03-21T20:41:00.000+00:002007-03-21T20:41:00.000+00:00You know me that well do you? Or are you just wor...You know me that well do you? Or are you just working from prejudice?RfShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00222230991354683712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-3120813776187741772007-03-21T19:28:00.000+00:002007-03-21T19:28:00.000+00:00"...the only thing that's changed since we last do..."...the only thing that's changed since we last done [sic] this is Souter and Salmond have cut your ground from under you, but your [sic] still running away."<BR/><BR/>There is nothing to run away from: if I thought for one moment that the SNP wasn't going to welcome my membership on any grounds I would obviously have to end it. As it stands, I am comfortable with my choice of political party. The fact that I am not alone in being both gay and a member of SNP shows that I am quite right to be.<BR/><BR/>"What am I to make of RFS saying he would apologise to you for assuming you were gay and you not commenting?"<BR/><BR/>For people other than you, Terry, it is quite normal to apologise for mis-reporting something. It's called taking responsibility for your errors. Now, RFS made no error, so no apology is necessary. When you mis-represent a situation (or a person), and get pulled up about it, you accuse the person confronting you of being part of a vast reactionary conspiracy.<BR/><BR/>I disagree with RFS's politics - he'd probably be horrified if he saw my political compass results - but I respect him for wanting to get his facts right and offering to put out a 'mea culpa' if he hasn't done. I'm probably closer to your politics on a number of issues, but you simply ignore facts that you don't like, choosing to attack personally those people who dare to correct you.<BR/><BR/>You run away from facts and arguments all the time, then accuse me of running away from an issue that 1) I addressed in my first reply and 2) is basically a storm in a teacup for the reasons I outlined in that reply. That makes you a coward for running away from the facts, a liar for falsely accusing me of doing so, and a hypocrite for criticising me on those grounds.Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10978812670312106107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-12157481161682513922007-03-21T19:19:00.000+00:002007-03-21T19:19:00.000+00:00Check his record on take overs etc sackings etc an...<I>Check his record on take overs etc sackings etc and why the unions hate him.</I><BR/><BR/>You mean like the many freinds of Labour now?<BR/><BR/>Why be selective?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-22350465999069666152007-03-21T19:16:00.000+00:002007-03-21T19:16:00.000+00:00Cllr Terry Kelly said... Shotgun - Most of us a...<I>Cllr Terry Kelly said...<BR/><BR/> Shotgun - Most of us are in it for the right reasons and I believe Will is too, but you are missing the point, he's running away from this single issue. </I><BR/><BR/>You run from every issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com