tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post6942159954566668048..comments2023-05-03T08:42:38.592+00:00Comments on Councillor Terry Kelly: THE ANTI BROWN CAMPAIGN GROWS MORE AND MORE HYSTERICAL BY THE DAY.Cllr Terry Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-18714838355236095592010-03-03T15:23:07.893+00:002010-03-03T15:23:07.893+00:00(Ronnie) 15:08
My remarks did not become a joke; t...(Ronnie) 15:08<br />My remarks did not become a joke; they were a joke, anyone who thinks they were serious is a joke but not a funny one. No wonder we don’t get to see who you are; no one wants to be a laughing stock do they?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-91495975382693393562010-03-03T15:18:29.966+00:002010-03-03T15:18:29.966+00:00(Ronnie) 15:13
Yes you walked into that didn’t you...(Ronnie) 15:13<br />Yes you walked into that didn’t you; you truly believe I was serious when I made that remark don’t you; can you answer that for me and others who might be reading this; do you believe that it was a serious remark?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-29222505112818218152010-03-03T15:13:45.894+00:002010-03-03T15:13:45.894+00:00Incidentally, I don't recall that Les Dawson w...Incidentally, I don't recall that Les Dawson was a Councillor or any kind of public servant.<br /><br />In fact he was a comedian.<br /><br />You are a Councillor and you are also a great comedian(unconscious type of course).<br /><br />I would particularly congratulate you on your specialist field of self-parody.Ronnienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-7235306493879486742010-03-03T15:08:05.301+00:002010-03-03T15:08:05.301+00:00Touched a wee nerve councillor?
Don't like it ...Touched a wee nerve councillor?<br />Don't like it when your squallid past comes back to haunt you do you.<br /><br />It's funny how your remarks about women suddenly became "a joke" only after they were printed all over the national press and your embarrassment to the Labour party became unacceptable.<br /><br />I wonder if your party reprimanded you and gave you a written warning.<br /><br />They are good at that apparently.<br /><br />You should ask Iain McMillan. he got one for telling the truth.Ronnienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-60598123557917834102010-03-03T14:13:39.191+00:002010-03-03T14:13:39.191+00:00(Ronnie) 13:59
Well you think that I was serious ...(Ronnie) 13:59<br /><br />Well you think that I was serious do you? you believe that I am saying that all women are thick; you believe that right, you don’t think I was joking do you?<br /><br />It must have been upsetting for you watching the late Les Dawson hurling all those insults at his mother in law because you know he wasn’t joking don’t you; he really meant them didn’t he; do you ever consider wearing a bull’s eye target on your a**e?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-56919543105258876572010-03-03T13:59:53.234+00:002010-03-03T13:59:53.234+00:00Ronnie said
"I have not bullied any women or...Ronnie said<br /><br />"I have not bullied any women or brandied the all as thick!"<br /><br />Terry Kelly said<br /><br />"Neither has Iain; Jim or me."<br /><br />HOWEVER ON 30/12/2007<br /><br />Patricia Devlin said<br /><br />"Why are no women allowed to comment here? <br />You've mentioned one being banned, you've called a black woman a liar for talking about racism but then no others have been allowed to comment.<br />Councillor are you a sexist?<br /><br />Terry kelly replied<br /><br />"You have just perfectly demonstrated why, it’s because they are thick."<br /><br />Found to be a liar once again.Ronnienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-14371721160466848002010-03-03T12:13:01.044+00:002010-03-03T12:13:01.044+00:00(Ronnie) 02/03/10
“They are indisputable facts ver...(Ronnie) 02/03/10<br />“They are indisputable facts verified in writing”<br /><br />If you really think you are right why are you afraid to face them; that seems rather a weak argument to me.<br /><br />“What does my identity have to do with anything”<br /><br />How would you like it if someone was to make serious allegations against you while hiding their identity? That’s what it has to do with it; you will always lack credibility if you do these things and remain in hiding. <br />“I have not bullied any women or brandied the all as thick!”<br /><br />Neither has Iain; Jim or me.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-43755334154248269322010-03-03T12:03:01.596+00:002010-03-03T12:03:01.596+00:00(Pauline) 02/03/10
Pauline I have tried to explain...(Pauline) 02/03/10<br />Pauline I have tried to explain; these matters were discussed at a Labour Group and decisions were taken which are required to stay within the group.<br />I am at a loss to understand why you are not prepared to speak to Iain McMillan or Jim Sharkey, if you do that you can discuss it with them; they are the people involved; send me your details at cllrterrykelly@sky.com and I will get them to contact you if you prefer.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-91716566063947282322010-03-02T20:20:10.095+00:002010-03-02T20:20:10.095+00:00Not good enough Councillor, Even for you.
I need ...Not good enough Councillor, Even for you.<br /><br />I need to know why Iain McMillan would lie to have any confidence in your party again.Paulinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-80638702782758277222010-03-02T20:18:07.234+00:002010-03-02T20:18:07.234+00:00"you could then make the accusations to his f..."you could then make the accusations to his face which you"<br /><br />These are not accusations.<br /><br />They are indisputable facts verified in writing.<br /><br />What does my identity have to do with anything.<br /><br />I have not bullied any women or brandied the all as thick!Ronnienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-59523847023369438772010-03-02T20:02:54.720+00:002010-03-02T20:02:54.720+00:00(Pauline) 19:46
I agree but write to him and he wi...(Pauline) 19:46<br />I agree but write to him and he will explainCllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-88608727849548152712010-03-02T19:58:29.858+00:002010-03-02T19:58:29.858+00:00(Anonymous) 19:33
While we are waiting for the Sta...(Anonymous) 19:33<br />While we are waiting for the Standards Commission to adjudicate would you be so kind as to favour us with your appraisal of their statement?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-62494344790514887492010-03-02T19:50:23.824+00:002010-03-02T19:50:23.824+00:00Ronnie 19:23
I have answered this several times an...Ronnie 19:23<br />I have answered this several times and advised you as I do again to go and speak to Cllr. Sharkey; you could then make the accusations to his face which you make in your post sent at 19:17 but I doubt that you will or you could resend it with a proper identity and it will them be printed. <br /><br />I now have a theory that you cannot now reveal your identity because of the embarrassment it would cause you; having displayed such cowardice for so long.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-84368032014324263992010-03-02T19:46:33.787+00:002010-03-02T19:46:33.787+00:00I don't understand.
Why would Iain McMillan L...I don't understand.<br /><br />Why would Iain McMillan Lie.<br /><br />I know him and I don't think he would lie on this.<br /><br />What would gain to lie on this matter?<br /><br />Pauline.Paulinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-20101548032502538192010-03-02T19:33:37.886+00:002010-03-02T19:33:37.886+00:00"If he had been lying the commission would ha..."If he had been lying the commission would have said ‘we find against Cllr. Sharkey’ or ‘Cllr. Sharkey has failed to prove his accusations’ or more likely ‘we find Ms. McDonald has no case to answer’ that kind of legalese but they didn’t; they said they did not regard it as being in the public interest to pursue the matter further; this means that he was right but they were not pursuing it, this is common among the legal profession. If Cllr. Sharkey was wrong Ms. McDonald would have been admonished but she wasn’t. It’s not that difficult really but; I’ve dealt with Billy before.<br />"<br /><br />Have passed your comments on to the standards commission for verification.<br /><br />I hope that you will print their rersponse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-8530441330771084802010-03-02T19:23:09.719+00:002010-03-02T19:23:09.719+00:00Are you denying that your Group Leader went into w...Are you denying that your Group Leader went into writing that Jim Sharkey had admitted his aggressive behaviour and had been warned about doing it in future.<br /><br />Simple question. Simple yes or no answer would suffice!Ronnienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-69810069565205110102010-03-02T19:11:09.650+00:002010-03-02T19:11:09.650+00:00(Anonymous) 13:39
If he had been lying the commis...(Anonymous) 13:39<br /><br />If he had been lying the commission would have said ‘we find against Cllr. Sharkey’ or ‘Cllr. Sharkey has failed to prove his accusations’ or more likely ‘we find Ms. McDonald has no case to answer’ that kind of legalese but they didn’t; they said they did not regard it as being in the public interest to pursue the matter further; this means that he was right but they were not pursuing it, this is common among the legal profession. If Cllr. Sharkey was wrong Ms. McDonald would have been admonished but she wasn’t. It’s not that difficult really but; I’ve dealt with Billy before.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-23696105623674014922010-03-02T19:01:49.183+00:002010-03-02T19:01:49.183+00:00(Ronnie) 13:36
I know Cllr. McDonald was wrong an...(Ronnie) 13:36<br /> I know Cllr. McDonald was wrong and the proof of this has already been in the public domain. Are you really so ignorant; so stupid that you think Cllr. Sharkey would embark on all this without proof? You aren’t up for this are you? Contact Jim he will put you right; go on he won’t bite he is the perfect gentleman.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-49493056311222150862010-03-02T18:55:02.886+00:002010-03-02T18:55:02.886+00:00(Anonymous) 12:40
You know nothing about this; yo...(Anonymous) 12:40<br /><br />You know nothing about this; you are desperately trying to nail councillor Sharkey but you can’t; maybe you are just not clever enough. <br /><br />There is a way for you to sort this out but you might not feel brave enough to do it; just simply contact Jim Sharkey and let him know what your thoughts on the matter are and I’m sure he will help you understand it, I can guarantee he will behave with you as he did with Ms. McDonald like a perfect gentleman.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-91678383400251956312010-03-02T13:39:14.151+00:002010-03-02T13:39:14.151+00:00"I doubt whether you are capable of getting y..."I doubt whether you are capable of getting your head round this Billy but that means he was telling the truth but they are not pursuing it."<br /><br />Why does it mean that he was telling the truth. Please explain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-6865865487607209842010-03-02T13:36:42.861+00:002010-03-02T13:36:42.861+00:00How do you know Councillor McDonald was wrong?
Do...How do you know Councillor McDonald was wrong?<br /><br />Do you have proof of this?<br /><br />Please share it and we can clear this whole matter up very easily and we can applaud you for being right.<br /><br />But then you can't prove it and you aren't right, otherwise you would have done so alreadyRonnienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-72901578356245619012010-03-02T12:40:51.348+00:002010-03-02T12:40:51.348+00:00Surely if Councillor Sharkey had been telling the ...Surely if Councillor Sharkey had been telling the truth then it would have been in the public interest to pursue the matter.<br /><br />You really are dense Mr Kelly.<br /><br />What the standards commission were saying was that Councillor McDonald followed the correct procedure for the complaint which was reporting the matter to your Labour group leader.<br /><br />Your Leader, Iain McMillan then wrote back to Councllor McDonald and said that he had given a warning to Jim Sharkey about his aggressive behaviour.<br /><br />That should have been the end of the matter.<br /><br />Councillor Sharkey, however, decided to do a u-turn on his story and told the PDE that Councillor McDonald was lying and that his behaviour was impeccable and gentlemanly. This of course is the biggest laugh.<br /><br />So this leaves us with the situation that either Iain McMillan your group leader is telling lies (what motive would he have for doing so?)or Jim Sharkey is telling lies (every motive for doing so i.e. to try and save face).<br /><br />It doesn't take a genius to work it out but probably someone a just a little more clever than you.<br /><br />It does seem to me that Councillor Sharkey likes reporting women to the Standards Commission. It certainly isn't his first. He must think that they are easy targets. The mark of a true bully.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-7677346013104631752010-03-02T12:38:45.655+00:002010-03-02T12:38:45.655+00:00(Ronnie)11:44
I know that Cllr. McDonald was wron...(Ronnie)11:44<br /><br />I know that Cllr. McDonald was wrong but; the matter was discussed at the Labour Group where a decision was taken to everyone’s satisfaction. <br /><br />I suggest you contact those involved in this and put your questions to them; political parties hold group meetings ‘in camera’ so I can’t help you. <br /><br />I’m sure however that you have made your mind up anyway.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-65593267238049219782010-03-02T11:44:22.167+00:002010-03-02T11:44:22.167+00:00If councillor McDonald was wrong then why did your...If councillor McDonald was wrong then why did your group leader write to her telling her that Councillor Sharkey's version of events was the same as hers and that he had warned Councillore Sharkey about his behaviour.<br /><br />Are you saying that your group leader is telling lies?Ronnienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-80137964921268637772010-03-01T20:45:34.315+00:002010-03-01T20:45:34.315+00:00(billy) 20:11
I think that the report said that th...(billy) 20:11<br />I think that the report said that the standards commission ruled that it was not in the public interest to pursue the matter. I doubt whether you are capable of getting your head round this Billy but that means he was telling the truth but they are not pursuing it.<br /><br />Cllr. Sharkey was still right and Cllr. MacDonald was still wrong; do you find that too complicated?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.com