tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post2829551386714127678..comments2023-05-03T08:42:38.592+00:00Comments on Councillor Terry Kelly: WHEN DOES HAVING £40,00 NOT BENEFIT YOU? WHEN YOU ARE ALEX (THE SPIV) SALMOND THAT'S WHEN - THE SPIV'S EXPENSES (PART 4)Cllr Terry Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comBlogger70125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-42400512299732837502009-07-14T17:54:53.877+00:002009-07-14T17:54:53.877+00:00(Alan) 13/07/09
“A good school would normally be ...(Alan) 13/07/09<br /><br />“A good school would normally be inundated with additional placement requests”<br /><br />South Primary received an outstanding HMI report just before its closure was announced. <br /><br />The fact that 3 other Renfrewshire Primary Schools cost more to educate a child than South Primary makes your argument completely worthless. <br /><br />The SNP are on record as saying that the closure is not about money, can you explain that?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-38784830987940376902009-07-13T22:46:17.769+00:002009-07-13T22:46:17.769+00:00Let me put it to you again Terry for avoidance of ...Let me put it to you again Terry for avoidance of doubt.<br /><br />Why do such a high percentage of parents in the South Primary catchment area choose to send their children to other schools on placement requests leaving South Primary two thirds empty.<br /><br />Why do they not want their kids to go to South Primary?<br /><br />A good school would normally be inundated with additional placement requests. But not South Primary. Why is this??<br /><br />Can you answer this without responding with a barrage of other questions to detract from this?. It appears not.Alannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-79955362735144952762009-07-13T18:05:13.117+00:002009-07-13T18:05:13.117+00:00(Anonymous) 12:28
“Once again you dodge the quest...(Anonymous) 12:28<br /><br />“Once again you dodge the question Terry”<br /><br />At the last council meeting where South Primary was on the agenda the SNP refused to enter into the debate and simply moved a one line amendment which they voted through to close the school.<br /><br />If their and your argument is so powerful why did they run away from the argument? Did they dodge the question; did they dodge the question when they had the debate about music tuition cuts abandoned? Who are the dodgers here? You haven’t answered any of my points either; once again the word anonymous is synonymous with the SNP.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-73252439016117790852009-07-13T12:28:34.857+00:002009-07-13T12:28:34.857+00:00Once again you dodge the question Terry.
A very l...Once again you dodge the question Terry.<br /><br />A very large percentage of parents in the catchment area of South Primary School, choose not to send their children there, leaving the school two thirds empty.<br /><br />If this is such a good school you would think that parents would be desperate for their kids to go there and yet they choose to send them to Lochfield and others.<br /><br />And incidentally, Labour are closing several schools in Glasgow and the reason they have cited for some of these is low occupancy. <br /><br />Guess what? These schools have higher percentage occupancy than South Primary.<br /><br />You are the party of hypocrisy. Of that there is no doubt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-9506415728740305182009-07-12T19:00:13.706+00:002009-07-12T19:00:13.706+00:00(Anonymous) 11/07/09
Who said this is about educa...(Anonymous) 11/07/09<br /><br />Who said this is about education improvement and not about money? Answer = the SNP<br /><br />Who said that the reason for closure was the cost of educating a child at South Primary was too costly ? answer the SNP.<br /><br />Who was forced to admit that South Primary was not the most expensive school to educate a child? Answer = the SNP.<br /><br />Who was forced to admit that there were 3 other schools which are more expensive to educate a child than SouthPrimary? answer = the SNP. <br /><br />Who refuses to explain why the other 3 are not being subjected to the same fate as South Primary ? answer the SNP.<br /><br />Perhaps a look at the catchment areas might enlighten you as well;and the age of respective schools and amounts to be spent while knocking down a new school. <br /><br />You could try asking these questions if you were genuinely interested in the provision of our children’s education rather than an anonymous pathetic SNP plant .Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-66443330618596902142009-07-11T23:34:50.845+00:002009-07-11T23:34:50.845+00:00Perhaps Pauline could enlighten us as to why so ma...Perhaps Pauline could enlighten us as to why so many Parents that live in the South Primary Catchment area, choose to send their children to Lochfield and other schools.<br /><br />If South Primary is so good, why don't all of the Parents in the catchment area send their children there automatically.<br /><br />It seems that a very large percentage of pupils in this area go elsewhere through placement requests.<br /><br />Anything to say on this Councillor/Terry/Pauline (with a big P of course)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-51548203714427795702009-06-26T18:46:13.951+00:002009-06-26T18:46:13.951+00:00(Pauline) 25/06/09
“My grammar may have raised so...(Pauline) 25/06/09<br /><br />“My grammar may have raised some valid points, but I notice none of you have anything constructive to add in relation to the disgraceful behaviour of the SNP/Lib Dem administration over South Primary. Perhaps there are some things which cannot be defended”<br /><br />With one scornful sweep of her pen she once again slaps down the SNP / Lib. Dem. pygmies; if this was a sport it would be banned for cruelty.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-25117175140238955972009-06-26T18:02:22.036+00:002009-06-26T18:02:22.036+00:00(Anonymous) 25/06/09
I tend to agree and it’s not...(Anonymous) 25/06/09<br /><br />I tend to agree and it’s not something I do but; they went over the top here and made fools of themselves; they made it an orchestrated bullying attack because she was beating them up.<br /> <br />You are doing the same by introducing a “political crony” who doesn’t exist, I have barely spoken 10 words to Pauline and I barely know the woman, you should learn from her and her parents group they have humiliated the SNP and they aint finished yet; but best of all; they have made it an issue that people will remember.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-53381396975470407332009-06-26T17:53:05.175+00:002009-06-26T17:53:05.175+00:00(Anonymous) 25/06/09
It wasn’t difficult to nail y...(Anonymous) 25/06/09<br />It wasn’t difficult to nail you was it? I made up the daughter story you cretin. Beating up Nats. is getting boring; can you not try harder?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-11055213959445846822009-06-26T17:28:17.742+00:002009-06-26T17:28:17.742+00:00(Ariel) 25/06/09
Things were much simpler in my w...(Ariel) 25/06/09<br /><br />Things were much simpler in my world when I was younger; my position on private health is clear but; I recall arguing with someone about this who shot me down by asking what I would do if one of my children was ill and I had the money to speed up treatment by going private.<br /><br />The position is that she would not get my vote and she should not be in her position or indeed in the Party; this also applies to those who educate their children privately; but the best way to do it is to ban these options and you can’t do that without being in power. <br /><br />Do you think that Alex (the spiv) Salmon should continue in his place following his expedient conversion to the cause of the British Monarchy?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-46173216763436809472009-06-25T21:00:04.356+00:002009-06-25T21:00:04.356+00:00Joseph, had you bothered to read what was written ...Joseph, had you bothered to read what was written rather than merely spoiling for an argument, you'd have realised that the post by "pauline" was not written by me. <br />Stephen, I am very grateful for your advice but I already have a degree. I think you'll find my comment related to the lack of basic ability to use capital letters and punctuation. <br />My grammar may have raised some valid points, but I notice none of you have anything constructive to add in relation to the disgraceful behaviour of the SNP/Lib Dem administration over South Primary. Perhaps there are some things which cannot be defended.Paulinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-19128110199596773592009-06-25T19:26:12.955+00:002009-06-25T19:26:12.955+00:00When a political crony criticises a person's &...When a political crony criticises a person's 'capital letters and punctuation', it's great and she has them on the run. When others do it, they are 'thugs' and simpletons. Enough of this cynicism and shallowness.<br />Cheerio!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-64682791036192557222009-06-25T18:56:11.737+00:002009-06-25T18:56:11.737+00:00"Attacking someone like this is fraught with ..."Attacking someone like this is fraught with danger; my daughter (BA English hon. Glasgow University) pointed this out as she observed that a semi colon was better than a coma after “universities” ."<br /><br />Aye, 2:2 or third class I bet! Heh heh!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-16360830053972436622009-06-25T18:19:13.565+00:002009-06-25T18:19:13.565+00:00(Anonymous) 24/06/09
Priceless; Pauline complete ...(Anonymous) 24/06/09<br /><br />Priceless; Pauline complete and total victory is yours; it’s hard to believe that even these SNP clowns would walk into this mess.<br /><br />Does Stephen want to discuss the school closure; no; does he want to discuss the fabric of the school; no; does he want to discuss the cost of educating children; no; how about the disruption to the kids; no again. <br />Well; what does “Braveheart Stephen” want to discuss? He wants to discuss spelling; he wants to discuss what is past tense. <br /><br />Was there ever a more comprehensive admission of defeat? Pompous ‘ad hominem’ attacks are no substitute for argument; this is an embarrassing gubbing for the Nat. mob of bullies and thugs. <br /><br />Attacking someone like this is fraught with danger; my daughter (BA English hon. Glasgow University) pointed this out as she observed that a semi colon was better than a coma after “universities” <br /><br />Stephen will you ever be able to make yourself known after this? <br />P.S. I don’t spend too much time trying to cross the T’s and dot the I’s getting my point across does me.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-74931226224264448832009-06-25T17:49:44.109+00:002009-06-25T17:49:44.109+00:00(Anonymous) 24/06/09
Yet another confession of def...(Anonymous) 24/06/09<br />Yet another confession of defeat by the SNP thugs, attacking the person rather than the persons argument, delicious, complete comprehensive defeat, go Pauline go!Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-17430352324748488062009-06-25T17:45:45.490+00:002009-06-25T17:45:45.490+00:00(Anonymous) 24/06/09
Why don’t you just get it ov...(Anonymous) 24/06/09<br /><br />Why don’t you just get it over with and say; "Pauline you win; we are now reduced to 'ad hominem' attacks because you have beaten us" <br /><br />She has taken on the SNP thugs and won; clearly these orchestrated attacks prove that beyond doubt, well done Pauline; keep fighting.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-50553290066064451252009-06-25T17:34:03.457+00:002009-06-25T17:34:03.457+00:00(Pauline) 24/06/09
Pauline; you are now witnessin...(Pauline) 24/06/09<br /><br />Pauline; you are now witnessing the final capitulation of the SNP goons whom you have been beating up since this thing started; as other comments from them here show, they have given up; they have clearly come to the conclusion that they have lost the argument; and that they are unable to lay a glove on you, well-done.<br /><br />Mackay’s attack on you and the parents where he accused you of seeking the closure of other schools was scurrilous and smacked of desperation. In addition to the “new low” you mention you would have seen another “new low” in the council chamber today when the SNP displayed arrogance and contempt for the parents by putting forward an insulting amendment which said only “council congratulates parents on their hard work” make no mistake about it Pauline when these morons you are arguing with decide with obvious collusion to attack you personally and avoid the issue you have won hands down.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-25431773025629919962009-06-25T17:10:27.420+00:002009-06-25T17:10:27.420+00:00(Mark) 24/06/09
It’s not surprising that you want...(Mark) 24/06/09<br /><br />It’s not surprising that you want to change the subject; the SNP awarded pay rises to senior officers which equalled the money required to save the school; that shows their priorities ; they said that they inherited a bankrupt council and it now turns out they inherited a sum of over £14 Million to spend.<br /><br />The argument put forward for closing South School was that it would be beneficial for the children’s education; they said it was not about money; that’s how gullible they believe that people like you are; same as cutting music tuition; they said and still do that it will improve the children’s musical abilities, did you volunteer to be an SNP target or what?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-17823854109745768812009-06-24T23:37:25.087+00:002009-06-24T23:37:25.087+00:00"...sought to spell," really should be &..."...sought to spell," really should be '...should have spelt'. The past tense of spell is spelt, or spelled in the US, but both are now acceptable in the UK. If you need any other help with written English then I suggest you enrol on a course at one of the lower grade Glasgow colleges. I would advise you to avoid the universities, you will obviously fail to matriculate.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br />Stephen KirkgardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-13953629501168151432009-06-24T23:25:51.609+00:002009-06-24T23:25:51.609+00:00"...never mind construct a reasonable arguman..."...never mind construct a reasonable argumant."<br />Pauline your beautiful, or is that 'bootiful'? Do you mean 'argument' or 'arrogate'? Are you the other half by chance, of a low brow comedy duo? Leave the thinking to those with an education and take some evening classes.<br />Dr GradusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-35651256162002872982009-06-24T23:11:01.664+00:002009-06-24T23:11:01.664+00:00"Actually interested in this.
Why is ian Mcm..."Actually interested in this.<br /><br />Why is ian Mcmillans expenses ten times that of derek mckays<br /><br />You said you had a reason terry<br /><br />so what is it.<br /><br />pauline"<br /><br />Dear Pauline,<br />Please take a moment to reflect before you begin commenting on the solecisms and grammatical blunders of others. "Actually interested in this" is not a proper sentence. You might also want to have a quick search for the proverbial vanishing apostrophe (the punctuation mark not the rhetorical figure), and the invisible question mark. Are you employed in any capacity? I sincerely hope not. If you are still at school then I sincerely apologise.<br />With all kind regards,<br />Joseph ErkelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-61932920220535885372009-06-24T17:13:01.039+00:002009-06-24T17:13:01.039+00:00Mark, if you want to split hairs then by all accou...Mark, if you want to split hairs then by all accounts let's discuss the difference between a fundamental lack of ability to punctuate a sentence, and a typing error. However, I'm sure we both have better things to do.<br /><br />We have always argued for a 4 school system in Paisley South. However we make no secret of that fact that, should the Council feel so strongly about reducing the number of schools to 3, it would be far more prudent to retain South primary which is a newer school requiring less work.<br /><br />When we put the figures to Derek Mackay (yet again), the best response he could muster was to whimper that Glasgow City Council is closing more than 20 schools with a higher occupancy of South. The man is a master of avoiding the issue. <br /><br />On a seperate note, the Council stooped to a new low today. They emptied the children's school so that, when they arrive for their last day on Friday, the classrooms will be empty. This reinforces the recurring message throughout this debacle that the welfare of the children is of no concern to Robert Naylor et al.Paulinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-9565957481106770192009-06-24T14:04:39.537+00:002009-06-24T14:04:39.537+00:00My point was that you are making out that the admi...My point was that you are making out that the administration have loads of money that they are choosing to spend on other developments that have been highlighted in the Paisley Express last week.<br /><br />I was merely pointing out that you know fine well that the money for these projects cannot be used on the other items that you mentioned in you comment therfore you are seeking to deceive people.<br /><br />As far as I was aware the main argument for closing South Primary School was the fact that it was two thirds empty and all the pupils could be accomodated very nearby which seems to make sense.Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-6219635928362118352009-06-24T13:45:26.328+00:002009-06-24T13:45:26.328+00:00(Mark) 09:32
Mark – You have chosen to patronise ...(Mark) 09:32<br /><br />Mark – You have chosen to patronise the wrong woman here; Pauline knows more about this than both of us and she is not about to be intimidated by you; believe me I have watched experts try this and seen her teat them with the contempt they deserved.<br /> <br />If you want to tell her about deception you are too late she knows about it; the SNP said this was not about money and then proceeded to talk about nothing else. Showing clearly that money was more important to them than these children’s educational welfare. <br /><br />Derek Mackay’s latest squalid intervention sees him accuse the parents of South Primary of wanting to shut their neighbouring school Lochfield; something which they have never suggested and want no part of, a typical SNP low blow. <br /><br />Here is some more SNP deception for you which the parents exposed. The SNP argued for closure on the cost of educating kids at South being too much compared with other schools, the parents pointed out that there were 3 other schools in Renfrewshire which were dearer, tell her about deception; go on, you really should be ashamed; this is children’s futures you are putting at risk here, what kind of people are you?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-56535269752591739542009-06-24T09:32:30.665+00:002009-06-24T09:32:30.665+00:00Yes, you are correct Pauline.
Before criticising ...Yes, you are correct Pauline.<br /><br />Before criticising others you should get you own house in order.<br /><br />It is also poignant to point out that Terry seeks to deceive here again.<br /><br />He knows fine well that the money that is to be utilised for the new investments comes from a capital expenditure budget which cannot be used for the items that he has mentioned which are paid for out of a revenue budget.<br /><br />Terry has sunk to an all time low here.<br /><br />Apologies in advance for any spelling and punctuation mistakes.<br /><br />I think the body of the comment is more importantMarknoreply@blogger.com