tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post2153530191805439835..comments2023-05-03T08:42:38.592+00:00Comments on Councillor Terry Kelly: THEY SAY THAT IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY.Cllr Terry Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-35546835228536507812010-01-31T15:31:24.137+00:002010-01-31T15:31:24.137+00:00(Anonymous) 31/01/10
I can no more stop Roger Pear...(Anonymous) 31/01/10<br />I can no more stop Roger Pearse or Stephen Sizer or indeed Nick Griffin or even a cretin like you from writing to me: I have no idea who the first two are: you of course are predictably anonymous and Griffin I know of but don’t want to know: have you ever heard of McCarthyism?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-21507801640213377232010-01-31T00:43:49.103+00:002010-01-31T00:43:49.103+00:00Roger Pearse, Stephen Sizer? Interesting company y...Roger Pearse, Stephen Sizer? Interesting company you keep. Who knew you considered the New Christian Right allies? It'll be Nick Griffin next.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-35237301285999758192010-01-29T20:01:34.138+00:002010-01-29T20:01:34.138+00:00(Roger Pearse) 28/01/10
Thank you for taking the ...(Roger Pearse) 28/01/10<br /><br />Thank you for taking the trouble to write: I have been aware for some time of the tendency for some Zionist supporters of all things Israel to shout anti Semite at anyone who argues with what Israel is doing but this is the first time I have been targeted in such a way. I am prepared to deal with whatever comes not least because I am 61 years old and have been involved in the Labour movement all my life: I am absolutely confident that I can hold my head high against such vile accusations.<br /><br />IT also strikes me that these people are not very tactically aware: unless these methods are some new technique unknown to me of how to win friends and influence people. <br /><br />An extremely unpleasant business right enough but I will continue to support the Palestinian cause: without trying to intimidate or lie about my opponents.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-58241724021619645982010-01-28T18:17:12.876+00:002010-01-28T18:17:12.876+00:00I can put up with almost anything except terminal ...I can put up with almost anything except terminal boredom; this is now over. Please feel free to have another go on another post.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-28780418348838989282010-01-28T18:15:52.854+00:002010-01-28T18:15:52.854+00:00David
"you can’t bully everyone" Suc...David <br /><br />"you can’t bully everyone" Such grandiloquence. I... "you can’t bully everyone"<br /><br />Such grandiloquence. I suppose you're to be congratulated for standing with such fortitude against the overwhelming power of my harangue, fueled as it is by the most powerfully evil lobby on the face of the Earth. Good for you.<br /><br />On the other hand, in what universe is asking questions synonymous with bullying?<br /><br />(Oh, and I have to say, I like your fine distinction between "insults" and "truth." So if I were to make some childish remark about the fact, say, that you wear glasses (as I do, by the way), would that only be an insult if you did not, in fact, wear glasses? Just asking.) <br />Publish Reject (David) 17:37Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-9322934935870083232010-01-28T17:24:39.946+00:002010-01-28T17:24:39.946+00:00(David) 17:02
Ending David: not with a bang but wi...(David) 17:02<br />Ending David: not with a bang but with a whimper: put it down to experience: you can’t bully everyone.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-52923341233819688572010-01-28T17:02:04.053+00:002010-01-28T17:02:04.053+00:00"do you feel better now?"
Felt just fin..."do you feel better now?"<br /><br />Felt just fine before, but thanks for asking.David Liebermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15635668223847728295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-53812667417563195082010-01-28T16:52:54.110+00:002010-01-28T16:52:54.110+00:00(David) 15:46
Is that it ? do you feel better now?...(David) 15:46<br />Is that it ? do you feel better now? Can you not go and pester someone else? I can write your comments before I see them.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-81598429669668945092010-01-28T15:46:11.077+00:002010-01-28T15:46:11.077+00:00I don't claim to be speaking for "my peop...I don't claim to be speaking for "my people." Do you claim to be speaking for yours? You know nothing about me but the assumptions you make based, I suppose, on my name, and on the fact that I ask questions you'd rather not answer. OK. Yet on the basis of a half-dozen brief exchanges, you grant yourself the freedom to assert that I'm shameful, devious, evil, and (on the basis of a previous message in this thread) probably dirty. Can't imagine where I might have heard any of *that* before. In fact, I can hardly imagine a more compelling demonstration of why there needs to be an Israel, and why it needs to be well-armed. Are you sure you're not a hasbarist double agent? If so, all I can say is, keep up the good work!<br /><br />Cheers!David Liebermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15635668223847728295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-45546518095621112452010-01-28T15:30:05.475+00:002010-01-28T15:30:05.475+00:00(David) 15:17
They are not insults they are the tr...(David) 15:17<br />They are not insults they are the truth: one thing and one thing only matters to you: you have found a target who is outspokenly pro Palestine and anti Israel: nothing else matters. Truth doesn’t matter: decency: fairness? It’s all been sacrificed for your cause, anything goes, you are tied in to the same mentality of those who carry out the crimes in Gaza. <br /><br />You do not speak for your people and you never will.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-69380265614940613182010-01-28T15:17:57.831+00:002010-01-28T15:17:57.831+00:00Wow. "Shame." "Evil." "De...Wow. "Shame." "Evil." "Devious." Are you really so ignorant of the history you invoke with those adjectives so redolent of ancient bigotry?<br /><br />Really, if it's so obvious to you how asserting "a blot on Jews everywhere" is *not* an antisemitic attack, why is it so much harder for you to articulate the obvious than to hurdle insults?David Liebermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15635668223847728295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-86902129792794335062010-01-28T14:10:31.071+00:002010-01-28T14:10:31.071+00:00(David) 13:56
You are playing games because you fe...(David) 13:56<br />You are playing games because you fear and can’t accept you shame: you are a defender of evil and you are unable to explain it away so you come up with these devious diversions.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-664050225055730952010-01-28T13:56:40.699+00:002010-01-28T13:56:40.699+00:00"This is where defending the indefensible lea..."This is where defending the indefensible leads you: you are reduced to arguing about the interpretation of words rather than what we both know was meant."<br /><br />I'd say the meaning of words is pretty important, since in this exchange that's all that we have to communicate with. If we both know what you meant when you said "a blot on Jews everywhere," and I'm wrong to interpret that as a claim that all Jews are personally responsible for "the Zionists' treatment of the Palestinians," why are you not able to articulate how I am wrong?David Liebermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15635668223847728295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-30772772908730495592010-01-28T11:38:04.411+00:002010-01-28T11:38:04.411+00:00(Anonymous) 10:37
It’s not rocket science I have b...(Anonymous) 10:37<br />It’s not rocket science I have been targeted because of my support for the Palestinians: these people are well known for this kind of behaviour. <br /><br />I suspect the SNP who follow my every word on this blog will be joining in as best they can even if they are incapable of grasping what it’s about: the issue doesn’t have a kilt on it so they will be mystified.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-23964571956293153872010-01-28T10:37:32.067+00:002010-01-28T10:37:32.067+00:00So this conspiracy against you. Do you think it...So this conspiracy against you. Do you think it's a group of Zionists within the SNP or have the SNP and the Zionists joined forces as a one off?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-24935433258310627722010-01-28T10:06:10.595+00:002010-01-28T10:06:10.595+00:00(pete woodhouse) 27/01/10
I had a fair idea that i...(pete woodhouse) 27/01/10<br />I had a fair idea that it would not take long for you to unravel. Perhaps it’s the guilt that you people are saddled with over Palestine: it’s quite a burden right?Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-84498707427929663242010-01-28T10:01:38.950+00:002010-01-28T10:01:38.950+00:00(David) 27/01/10
This is where defending the indef...(David) 27/01/10<br />This is where defending the indefensible leads you: you are reduced to arguing about the interpretation of words rather than what we both know was meant. What you are now writing about is a side show: a red herring. <br /><br />Some day you will accept that you can't defend the indefensible.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-54273896586974827722010-01-27T20:35:50.815+00:002010-01-27T20:35:50.815+00:00once again you prove everything i've said up t...once again you prove everything i've said up to now. true to form (of you and your doppleganger) you resort to insults. good for you! pat yourself on the head (careful with the wig) and have a drink on me. good luck with the zionists, keep looking under your bed and check your cupboard. if you're important enough they'll get you in the end, although i reckon you'll be safe. GFYS ;)pete woodhousenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-58710083415485740512010-01-27T20:26:41.980+00:002010-01-27T20:26:41.980+00:00To my mind, "blot" = "guilt" =...To my mind, "blot" = "guilt" = "responsibility." Perhaps you clear up where the equation breaks down such that you are not assigning "all Jews everywhere" (your words, I remind you) responsibility for the "Zionist treatment of Palestinians."David Liebermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15635668223847728295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-47081526425202368502010-01-27T19:51:46.276+00:002010-01-27T19:51:46.276+00:00(David) 19:13
So “a blot on Jews everywhere” is th...(David) 19:13<br />So “a blot on Jews everywhere” is the equivalent of saying (I hold Jews everywhere responsible for the Zionist treatment of the Palestinians) <br /><br />Only one word does you justice and if it isn’t a word they should make it one in your honour – Goebellesesque:Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-7459719766338032242010-01-27T19:45:42.164+00:002010-01-27T19:45:42.164+00:00(Francis) 18:26
You’re a bit mixed up here Francis...(Francis) 18:26<br />You’re a bit mixed up here Francis: he didn’t try to prove the anti Semitism did he?<br /><br />“clearly has some major issues with Jewish people”<br /><br />The Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto? Heroes! I learned a lot about them when I visited the place. The Zionist cowards and thugs who are spreading vile lies about me are the ones I have the major issues with. <br /><br />Francis you really are not the type of person to accuse or lecture anyone about racism.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-5782036952913948152010-01-27T19:38:30.601+00:002010-01-27T19:38:30.601+00:00(pete woodhouse) 17:57
Not quite right Pete. There...(pete woodhouse) 17:57<br />Not quite right Pete. There is an orchestrated campaign by Zionists to attack me: despite your underprivileged past and your chaotic family background which by the way I sympathise with: I have to say that if you don’t realise that you are a fool or a liar.Cllr Terry Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03285923851619030726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-10411601820561240632010-01-27T19:13:15.027+00:002010-01-27T19:13:15.027+00:00"You have stated openly that you hold "J..."You have stated openly that you hold "Jews everywhere" responsible for "the Zionists' treatment of the Palestinians"<br /><br />I believe "a blot on Jews everywhere" was your exact phrase. I haven't seen you retract it, so I feel safe in assuming it stands.<br /><br />"I’m not reading your pompous lectures I’ve heard / seen / read it all before it is not as complicated as you would like folk to think: that is why you spout this convoluted nonsense at every opportunity."<br /><br />You're quite right, of course, that an exchange like this will, sooner or later, reach a point of more or less complete impasse. In the final analysis, that is why nations have armies.<br /><br />Cheers!David Liebermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15635668223847728295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-14194231169862217682010-01-27T18:26:27.333+00:002010-01-27T18:26:27.333+00:00Mr Kelly has asked Mensch:
"Would you like to...Mr Kelly has asked Mensch:<br />"Would you like to prove that anti Semitism or do you prefer the Goebbels method?"<br /><br />Well, anyone who says "What would these cowards have been like in the Warsaw Ghetto if they can’t face me?" clearly has some major issues with Jewish people.<br /><br />And the fact that you automatically call your accusers "anti Socialist and pro Zionist" is simply laughable. <br /><br />I suggest you do the decent thing and at least remove that "against racism" nonsense from the top of your homepage - because it clearly does not apply.Francisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35177951.post-7659631010524494032010-01-27T17:57:21.506+00:002010-01-27T17:57:21.506+00:00i live in leith. i was born in edinburgh. i grew u...i live in leith. i was born in edinburgh. i grew up in linlithgow. my parents are both scottish from a church of scotland background. i am not religious in any way. <br /> now what exactly do you think makes me a zionist? i've no doubt you feel you have zionists bashing your door in, but actually there's just people who want to take you to task for your clumsy comments on israel.pete woodhousenoreply@blogger.com